Too heavy on graphics card

[David]

Due to the demand on the graphics card this game is barely playable for me (and lots of other people). Especially in the levels which have the jungle vibe. All the animated stuff which is not adding anything game-wise is slowing the game down to a crawl (even on the lowest possible settings). Selecting anything is a nightmare. Can we please have a graphics mode which does away with all the animated scenary and looks more like the boardgame pls? Gloomhaven is all about the gameplay and not so much about the sexy graphics.

[jep]

Originally posted by drew_west:

perhaps, do you not suffer any performance issues at all?

No slowdowns, no. I'd say it uses about 70% of my CPU while it's running (according to task manager). It slows down my system a little if I try to go and do something else while GH is still running, but playing the game is smooth with all in-game graphics settings turned up to the max.

Also, I run it on one of two monitors, both running at 2560 x 1600. Maybe you're running at 4K or something? Have you tried a lower resolution/lower graphics settings to see if that changes things? Even if you want to run it maxed out, this is a good test for diagnosing any issues.

[drew_west]

I'm running at 1080p lol. fml - its not that it performs bad I have no issue with fps. Its the effect it has on my gpu. It makes it run hotter than any other game I play, and I play games on ultra (such as Monster Hunter World, TWW2, witcher 3). I admit, I dont have a liqud cooler, so I have to rely on my gpu's stock fan to carry the brunt of the gpu temps. But it manages just fine with graphically taxing games. But Gloomhaven? when this game is running, it legit scares me haha. Might just refund and purchase it later (hopefully it might be more optimised or atleast have a better selection of option settings).

[jep]

Yeah, that's crazy. Here's my full spec:

•16GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (2x8GB) RAM
•Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
•6th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
•4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 [DL DVI-I, HDMI, DP, DP, DP]

That's it. No fancy cooling at all. It was an HP Envy I got < $1k over 4 years ago.

[drew_west]

So what temps are you averaging in battles? gpu and cpu wise?

[jep]

Originally posted by drew_west:

So what temps are you averaging in battles? gpu and cpu wise?

Looks like about 80° C for GPU and 58° C for CPU. Internet seems to think those numbers are pretty well within spec (nVidia says it should be less than 85° C).

I don't notice any slowdown, lagging, tearing, etc.

https://i.postimg.cc/WNH1szQF/image.png

GH Settings:
https://i.postimg.cc/KxrhN4JP/image.png
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[Slow Dog]

Originally posted by drew_west:

I have just had my pc overheat on a forest map. This shouldnt be happening on a game such as this.

There's a setting for this issue, if my guess is right. Turn on VSync, every second Vblank. You might be fine with just VSync.

I think the cause of the problem is that there's little CPU work so the GPU runs away unconstrained, generating frames that really aren't necessary.

[drew_west]

Originally posted by jep:

Originally posted by drew_west:

So what temps are you averaging in battles? gpu and cpu wise?

Looks like about 80° C for GPU and 58° C for CPU. Internet seems to think those numbers are pretty well within spec (nVidia says it should be less than 85° C).

Seems like we get similar temps. I just dont like my rig getting that hot for a game that cannot justify it. This game definately should be running at about 70 max. But regardless of whether I lock the frames to 60 or leave it at 144, im still averaging between 79-83c - which points to an optimisation issue. Even if I set the graphics preset to 'simple' im getting consistently high temps especially on forest maps.

[jep]

Originally posted by drew_west:

Originally posted by jep:

Looks like about 80° C for GPU and 58° C for CPU. Internet seems to think those numbers are pretty well within spec (nVidia says it should be less than 85° C).

Seems like we get similar temps. I just dont like my rig getting that hot for a game that cannot justify it. This game definately should be running at about 70 max. But regardless of whether I lock the frames to 60 or leave it at 144, im still averaging between 79-83c - which points to an optimisation issue. Even if I set the graphics preset to 'simple' im getting consistently high temps especially on forest maps.

I fiddled with things a bit. Setting VSync to "Every Vblank" (as suggested by Slow Dog) did drop the utilization down to about 65%-85% (I can't explain why the game gets stuck in certain modes at certain zoom levels). However, it didn't change the temp. It stays at 80.

In fact, I cranked the settings WAY down, and it stayed at 80 even when running about 55% GPU utilization:
https://i.postimg.cc/nn448F8G/image.png

I let it run like that for quite a while, and it never significantly changed.

Even when I dropped the settings WAY down (set to "Fastest"), at 40-45% GPU it was still at 80° C. That just seems to be the temp of my 970 under and kind of significant load. And to repeat, my computer doesn't sound like its straining or anything. The fan noise is pretty much what I would consider normal when I'm just web browsing.

The utility I used is available here:
https://www.moo0.com/software/SystemMonitor/

You might try it out and see what you're getting, and what you're getting in some of the other games you're talking about.

Since you aren't seeing any actual performance issues, I'm not sure what to tell you.

The OP said they were having actual major performance issues, even with all the graphics options turned down to the lowest. I'm more interested in what's going on with their system, though they haven't replied since starting the thread a few days ago.

I would suspect, though, that the game is very much un-optimized. You just don't do that at this stage in the software development cycle. It's pointless, because you'll wind up optimizing code that gets ripped out later anyway. Only gross performance issues are generally fixed at this stage. Once the code is much more in a stable state, then they go in and fix any remaining issues.

[drew_west]

yeah thats fair. Thanks for putting that into perspective for me. I am really enjoying the game so I hope it is better optimised during launch. Played for a little today and in the regular stone dungeon maps I was getting in the range of 70-75c which is what I was hoping for across all areas. I will say, that if its pushing some gpus close to throttle, lower spec gpus must be having a nightmare trying to cope with this.

[jep]

With all the bells and whistles turned on, probably so. But they're lower spec GPUs, after all. :D If a game takes advantage of all the things a higher spec one can do, then of course you'll have to crank it down if you don't have one.

[Valmar]

I got a 670 since 8 years ago. game works perfectly fine. I don't think graphic card is an issue for this game. I suppose is a combination of other things.

[snedex]

I've been seeing similar performance issues. Using an RTX 2060. I don't see performance spike as the card can handle the load, however it's exceptionally high for the game ~70-80% utilisation sitting at a cozy 75°C.

For reference, that is roughly the same load I see on Cyberpunk @ 1080p on high.

On a lesser AMD laptop graphic chipset, if not ventilated, seen 100% utilisation @~90°C even with everything set to fastest.

Unity/Unreal engine or still early access / optimisation issues?

[Juravis]

I made my own thread detailing my experiences, which echo some nVidia users here with midrange computers that are underperforming massively.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/780290/discussions/1/2994297535741213069/?tscn=1609735130