So what happened?

[BigRowdy]

I bought the game when it had overwhelmingly positive reviews but didn't play it. Now that I have time the reviews are ... mixed?
Sorry total noob post but well I am a noob here.

[James]

A console port was done by a new developer and it absolutely wrecked the game to where it is almost unplayable. Cards don't work, scenerios are bugged, multiplayer has constant desync issues, enchants are broken, and much much much much much much more. Maybe in another year the game will be back in a good spot.

[xqz36xq]

Click on the "mixed", and read some of the recent negative reviews.

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by xqz36xq:

Click on the "mixed", and read some of the recent negative reviews.

I did that and it is why I was hoping for more of a complete story here.

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by Pavias:

A console port was done by a new developer and it absolutely wrecked the game to where it is almost unplayable. Cards don't work, scenerios are bugged, multiplayer has constant desync issues, enchants are broken, and much much much much much much more. Maybe in another year the game will be back in a good spot.

So it was a new developer, what happened to the old team?
Also the console thing...

[Cores]

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

So it was a new developer, what happened to the old team?
Also the console thing...

Previously, the game was developed by Flaming Fowl Studios (now they are making their new game).
In March of this year, Embracer Group bought Twin Sails and its parent company Asmodee Digital (ex-publisher of Gloomhaven).
Embracer Group also owns Saber Interactive, which was commissioned to make a port of the game on the consoles.

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by Cores:

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

So it was a new developer, what happened to the old team?
Also the console thing...

Previously, the game was developed by Flaming Fowl Studios (now they are making their new game).
In March of this year, Embracer Group bought Twin Sails and its parent company Asmodee Digital (ex-publisher of Gloomhaven).
Embracer Group also owns Saber Interactive, which was commissioned to make a port of the game on the consoles.

Got it. Thank you for the details. Am I wrong to assume things went downhill from that point forward?

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Originally posted by Cores:

Previously, the game was developed by Flaming Fowl Studios (now they are making their new game).
In March of this year, Embracer Group bought Twin Sails and its parent company Asmodee Digital (ex-publisher of Gloomhaven).
Embracer Group also owns Saber Interactive, which was commissioned to make a port of the game on the consoles.

Got it. Thank you for the details. Am I wrong to assume things went downhill from that point forward?

No You are not. Focus since then has been on console changes and the new devs have struggled to find the time and means to address PC/Mac based changes & Concerns.

Sad development for Flaming Fowl and for this games future.

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Got it. Thank you for the details. Am I wrong to assume things went downhill from that point forward?

No You are not. Focus since then has been on console changes and the new devs have struggled to find the time and means to address PC/Mac based changes & Concerns.

Sad development for Flaming Fowl and for this games future.

Interesting. I would surmise that these new developers are unaware that console gamer's read steam reviews often.

Because for my PS5 or Xbox 1/s I would read: A great game not easily converted to my console platform that now has ruined the original title it was translated from.

Though if I were just a console gamer I would not give a flip about PC gamer's feelings on the issue, I would question loyalty of developers. I mean loyalty goes both ways, especially in monetary interaction between unseen parties.

So I would be highly unlikely to purchase the product for integrity reasons.

And a mixed review in my eyes would be taken as more towards mostly negative due to some marketing cover up. *Note I am unsure if developers are able to delete or suppress certain negative reviews as factual information, but in my conspiratorial mind I believe it is possible to an extent.

Well I guess congratulations are in order to the executive who saw more dollars signs in his/her eyes with consoles, because now he/she must imagine those dollars (euro's and other currencies) washing down the sink in front of his/her eyes.

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Originally posted by Nazkai:

No You are not. Focus since then has been on console changes and the new devs have struggled to find the time and means to address PC/Mac based changes & Concerns.

Sad development for Flaming Fowl and for this games future.

Interesting. I would surmise that these new developers are unaware that console gamer's read steam reviews often.

Because for my PS5 or Xbox 1/s I would read: A great game not easily converted to my console platform that now has ruined the original title it was translated from.

Though if I were just a console gamer I would not give a flip about PC gamer's feelings on the issue, I would question loyalty of developers. I mean loyalty goes both ways, especially in monetary interaction between unseen parties.

So I would be highly unlikely to purchase the product for integrity reasons.

And a mixed review in my eyes would be taken as more towards mostly negative due to some marketing cover up. *Note I am unsure if developers are able to delete or suppress certain negative reviews as factual information, but in my conspiratorial mind I believe it is possible to an extent.

Well I guess congratulations are in order to the executive who saw more dollars signs in his/her eyes with consoles, because now he/she must imagine those dollars (euro's and other currencies) washing down the sink in front of his/her eyes.

Pretty much agreed on the console perspectives & for a bit more background this is not the first nor likely the last causality relating to Embracer Group due in no small part to a large deal falling through earlier this year.

For inquiring minds feel free to google Embracer Group deal troubles or (fix the DOT in the link below)

https://www.spokesman DOT com/stories/2023/aug/17/game-on-embracer-groups-mass-layoffs-triggered-by-/

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Interesting. I would surmise that these new developers are unaware that console gamer's read steam reviews often.

Because for my PS5 or Xbox 1/s I would read: A great game not easily converted to my console platform that now has ruined the original title it was translated from.

Though if I were just a console gamer I would not give a flip about PC gamer's feelings on the issue, I would question loyalty of developers. I mean loyalty goes both ways, especially in monetary interaction between unseen parties.

So I would be highly unlikely to purchase the product for integrity reasons.

And a mixed review in my eyes would be taken as more towards mostly negative due to some marketing cover up. *Note I am unsure if developers are able to delete or suppress certain negative reviews as factual information, but in my conspiratorial mind I believe it is possible to an extent.

Well I guess congratulations are in order to the executive who saw more dollars signs in his/her eyes with consoles, because now he/she must imagine those dollars (euro's and other currencies) washing down the sink in front of his/her eyes.

Pretty much agreed on the console perspectives & for a bit more background this is not the first nor likely the last causality relating to Embracer Group due in no small part to a large deal falling through earlier this year.

For inquiring minds feel free to google Embracer Group deal troubles or (fix the DOT in the link below)

https://www.spokesman DOT com/stories/2023/aug/17/game-on-embracer-groups-mass-layoffs-triggered-by-/

Thanks I will read it.

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Originally posted by Nazkai:

Pretty much agreed on the console perspectives & for a bit more background this is not the first nor likely the last causality relating to Embracer Group due in no small part to a large deal falling through earlier this year.

For inquiring minds feel free to google Embracer Group deal troubles or (fix the DOT in the link below)

https://www.spokesman DOT com/stories/2023/aug/17/game-on-embracer-groups-mass-layoffs-triggered-by-/

Thanks I will read it.

The Latest Embracer Group fallout info

https://www.rockpapershotgun (DOT Com) /timesplitters-devs-free-radical-are-reportedly-the-next-embracer-studio-facing-closure

[BigRowdy]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

Thanks I will read it.

The Latest Embracer Group fallout info

https://www.rockpapershotgun (DOT Com) /timesplitters-devs-free-radical-are-reportedly-the-next-embracer-studio-facing-closure

Wow. What a ♥♥♥♥♥ show.

[Nazkai]

Yeah seems like there will be many decent and as was in the case with Flaming Fowl (quite good) Dev teams getting scuttled in the wake of Embracer Groups Deal falling through Sadly.

[BigRowdy]

So, think we will be stuck with a broken game here?

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by BigRowdy:

So, think we will be stuck with a broken game here?

Sure Hope not. Think there have been some small improvements and The New Devs have stated they intend to do more but... For now we just have to wait and see.

Reckon it's gonna be a matter of resource constraints and managerial prioritization of the Dev's Workloads and time really.