Game worth it?

[CTHOMP]

Ive watched 5 or 6 lets plays so far and I think everyone has lost the game without even making it through the first dungeon, is this game seriously so hard that you cant even survive the start easily?

I know the game is challenging, but it seems like it is impossible to finish even the first intro dungeon, everyo e runs out of cards, even when trying to burn as few as possible.

[Cryptic]

the game is difficult for the sake of being difficult

my friend and i have a inside joke about loving to be hit between the legs because that is what playing this game feels like

[Magedaddy]

Originally posted by CTHOMP:

Ive watched 5 or 6 lets plays so far and I think everyone has lost the game without even making it through the first dungeon, is this game seriously so hard that you cant even survive the start easily?

I know the game is challenging, but it seems like it is impossible to finish even the first intro dungeon, everyo e runs out of cards, even when trying to burn as few as possible.

The game is challenging because people go in blind and don't know how to play. There is a small tutorial but it doesn't go in depth and teach you actual strategy that you will need to know in order to reliably win scenarios. The digital version is a faithful adaptation of the board game, and in the board game people typically read the rule book (or at least skim it) before playing.

To answer your question though, yes, the game is definitely worth it. It's a third of the price of the physical board game and is the same game but with faster setup times and automatic monster AI (a pain to learn when playing physically).

[Xasn]

Game is hard yep. Its not perse the difficulty thats the biggest problem its the early game BAD design. Lets say 10 is hardest and 1 is easiest. The game puts you at 9 in the first few mainquest. Then lowers to 8 after playing a bit and then goes to 6-7 after playing a lot. (After unlocking perks, classes, items etc) Which is inherently a bad design choice.

An ideal difficulty curve should start from 6 then slowly goes up. Dont get me wrong, I dont have difficulty issues with the game. Im playing GH for the first time a week ago. Now im on hard and playing the 6th or 7th mainquest. It does get easier the further you get but early game is still badly designed. The first scenario would have been perfect if it only contains 2 rooms. And then from 4th mainquest onward proceed like the tabletop.

Its like in Dark Souls where you start in one of the midgame dungeons instead of the beginners area.

[Danii]

It's not impossible to finish the first dungeon. Hard? Yes. But not impossible.
Gloomhaven is my favorite game, so I say it's worth it if you like a challenge. ;)

[Mindmaker]

It's over the top hard, you are expected to repeart the first campaign mission a bunch of time until you find a good character/combination and/or get lucky.

[GuffBall]

Originally posted by Magedaddy:

Originally posted by CTHOMP:

Ive watched 5 or 6 lets plays so far and I think everyone has lost the game without even making it through the first dungeon, is this game seriously so hard that you cant even survive the start easily?

I know the game is challenging, but it seems like it is impossible to finish even the first intro dungeon, everyo e runs out of cards, even when trying to burn as few as possible.

The game is challenging because people go in blind and don't know how to play. There is a small tutorial but it doesn't go in depth and teach you actual strategy that you will need to know in order to reliably win scenarios. The digital version is a faithful adaptation of the board game, and in the board game people typically read the rule book (or at least skim it) before playing.

To answer your question though, yes, the game is definitely worth it. It's a third of the price of the physical board game and is the same game but with faster setup times and automatic monster AI (a pain to learn when playing physically).

That's what's caught me out. I'm so use to PC games teaching you how to play through tutorials/doing I'd forgotten that when I used to play boardgames the first thing you did was read through the rules to properly understand how the mechanics work.

[Xenith_Shadow]

So a somewhat relevant note is that the missions difficulty is also supposedly base on player count. With the difficulty going 3,2,4. So assuming alot the games you watched 4p games the game would be a lot harder for them.

[Monsieur blap]

Originally posted by Mindmaker:

It's over the top hard, you are expected to repeart the first campaign mission a bunch of time until you find a good character/combination and/or get lucky.

Or you accept that maybe you are lacking an understanding of the game and work on that.

[Shalltear]

Hey!

Gloomhaven is an one of a kind strategy game. It is pretty difficult for beginners. But for sure doable once u got the hang in it.

I got some easy talk I guess as I've played a lot of Gloomhaven at home (boardgame). It's overwhelming, but very, very nice to play if u like these cards strategy.

[Zarquon]

no

[Mindmaker]

Originally posted by Monsieur blap:

Originally posted by Mindmaker:

It's over the top hard, you are expected to repeart the first campaign mission a bunch of time until you find a good character/combination and/or get lucky.

Or you accept that maybe you are lacking an understanding of the game and work on that.

Like how? Find a good combo, set up a great attack with burn cards and roll x0 and -1.
What's there to understand?

[Shalltear]

Originally posted by Mindmaker:

Originally posted by Monsieur blap:

Or you accept that maybe you are lacking an understanding of the game and work on that.

Like how? Find a good combo, set up a great attack with burn cards and roll x0 and -1.
What's there to understand?

Rules are simple, true. choose 2 cards, wait for monsters, activate cards, and still many complains about first few lvls on normal.

It's just not picking combo's and go, u gotta be careful what u do, which cards u choose, which monsters u gonna attack, how to adapt on their cards. It is a very tactical boardgame. And of course that bit of luck of not pulling no-damage cards.

[BrUwU]

Can someone explain to me this, am i a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ genius for completing first 2 missions first try? I see soo many people complaining about difficulty, yet, i completed those 2 missions no snag.
Problem arises later on, some missions are kinda designed for you to fail first time. SOme missions borderline unplayable with certain character composition. But overall everything is doable if you apply yourself to the task, and nost trying to sleepwalk through the game.

[whoofe]

i find its a lot easier to run with just 2 mercs than 3, and also dont forget the restart round option, which you can use to change which cards you pick (it wont change the unlucky x0 or -1 draws you might get during the round though)

[CTHOMP]

So you can just keep replaying dungeons over and over and continue to level up/gain exp/skills until the dungeons are beatable? So you just need to grind to be able to beat the game? Got it!