The most optimal way to place Quartermaster?

[Lampros]

I just unlocked him, and I have no idea what his role is - or frankly why people say he's so over-powered. I suppose he is a jack-of-all-trades but what is his best role? Tank? Melee damage dealer? Ranged damage dealer? The other two characters in my trio are Sunkeeper and Sawbones, so I'd like to make the Quartermaster a ranged character, but I am willing to re-orient if that is egregiously sub-optimal.

[Magedaddy]

Just google the card "reforge" for quartermaster. That is the *main* reason people say that he is broken. Besides that, he can be extremely good depending on what items you have and he is another one of those classes that can be "jack of all trades" and do ranged, melee, and tanking.

[Mechalibur]

There are a lot of reasons Spears is an incredibly powerful class.

At first level, he has 2 low initiative cards with an enhancement slot for easy Strengthen use. Bottom action strengthens are great because they'll give advantage on your top action as well as any actions you take on your next turn.

3 perks that allow items to be refreshed. This can include consumed items, so he can keep chugging stamina potions to help accommodate the lower hand size. This is compounded by cards like Catastrophic Bomb which allows a huge number of attack cards to be drawn.

He has high hp combined with good mobility. Most tank-like classes aren't very mobile, but he has plenty of options for high movement (especially since he can refresh boots more often than others).

Has access to 2 low initiative bottoms that move and stun/disarm a target.

[I Denizen I]

First choice is,
A : Support class
or
B : Damage dealer

He can be amazing at both, think at level 6? iirc he gets a perma buff card that allows anyone adjacent to him to add 1 target to ranged attack cards, and trust me, there are some uber powerful ranged characters being able to add 1 target may not seem much, but for powerful ranged damage dealers its effectively a 100% damage increase.

Or you take the other skill that allows constant refreshing of spent items, he kinda does it all.

[SaltyTaro]

Quartermaster is an end-game OP character. You need Gloomhaven at high prosperity and you need to be able to collect a lot of gold (gold drops increase as monster level increases) to get the most out of quartermaster.

Where you are in the campaign will influence how OP a character is, Mindthief is "OP" at the beginning of the game but gets worse and worse as the game goes on, Quartermaster is average in the early game but as you get more items and money for enchantments he is broken.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Magedaddy:

Just google the card "reforge" for quartermaster. That is the *main* reason people say that he is broken. Besides that, he can be extremely good depending on what items you have and he is another one of those classes that can be "jack of all trades" and do ranged, melee, and tanking.

I just did - and holy mackerel! That effect on a non-loss card?!

Originally posted by Mechalibur:

There are a lot of reasons Spears is an incredibly powerful class.

At first level, he has 2 low initiative cards with an enhancement slot for easy Strengthen use. Bottom action strengthens are great because they'll give advantage on your top action as well as any actions you take on your next turn.

3 perks that allow items to be refreshed. This can include consumed items, so he can keep chugging stamina potions to help accommodate the lower hand size. This is compounded by cards like Catastrophic Bomb which allows a huge number of attack cards to be drawn.

He has high hp combined with good mobility. Most tank-like classes aren't very mobile, but he has plenty of options for high movement (especially since he can refresh boots more often than others).

Has access to 2 low initiative bottoms that move and stun/disarm a target.

What would you recommend as the best role for him? Ranged damage? Melee damage? Tank?

Originally posted by EQ2 Nagash:

First choice is,
A : Support class
or
B : Damage dealer

He can be amazing at both, think at level 6? iirc he gets a perma buff card that allows anyone adjacent to him to add 1 target to ranged attack cards, and trust me, there are some uber powerful ranged characters being able to add 1 target may not seem much, but for powerful ranged damage dealers its effectively a 100% damage increase.

Or you take the other skill that allows constant refreshing of spent items, he kinda does it all.

I kind of want the support role to be filled by either a Soothsinger or a Sawbones though. If you opt for damage, is melee or ranged better?

Originally posted by SaltyTaro:

Quartermaster is an end-game OP character. You need Gloomhaven at high prosperity and you need to be able to collect a lot of gold (gold drops increase as monster level increases) to get the most out of quartermaster.

Where you are in the campaign will influence how OP a character is, Mindthief is "OP" at the beginning of the game but gets worse and worse as the game goes on, Quartermaster is average in the early game but as you get more items and money for enchantments he is broken.

I am at Prosperity 4. Is this sufficient to get a good use out of Quartermaster?

Also, explain why Mindthief is worse in later game? Does he get bad level-up cards? Or does one of his key mechanic get obsoleted later - just like healing for Tinkerer?

[syricon]

Stamina potions got nerfered (justifiably) in digital. This has made Spears LESS broken, but he's still broken, it just takes higher levels.

You can still infinite turn, just takes more setup. You can still one man clear most dungeons, just takes more clicks and higher level.

[Sir Eyeball]

Please stop Spoiling. In the description on your post write the icon not the name. You have so many posts in this forum and in every single one you spoil. I try not to open them but when you even spoil in the heading it gets too annoying

[Lampros]

Originally posted by syricon:

Stamina potions got nerfered (justifiably) in digital. This has made Spears LESS broken, but he's still broken, it just takes higher levels.

You can still infinite turn, just takes more setup. You can still one man clear most dungeons, just takes more clicks and higher level.

Yeah, it seems like we are guinea pigs for future nerfs that may be implemented on tabletop. Just WTF.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Sir Eyeball:

Please stop Spoiling. In the description on your post write the icon not the name. You have so many posts in this forum and in every single one you spoil. I try not to open them but when you even spoil in the heading it gets too annoying

Seriously, get a grip; and stop harassing me. First, plenty of other people are posting spoilers - and even on the title itself. (See numerous thread about scenario x bugged; or later unlockable item y not working properly.) I don't see you harassing them. Second, I didn't know even saying the name of a class itself is "spoiling." Just look up the classes in the Wiki - or any Gloomhaven reference.

One more peep from you, I will just put you on ignore.

[Sir Eyeball]

thx I forgot about block. If only it also removed your posts so I did not have to see the spoilers in the heading. I cannot see others that have unlockable mercs by name in the heading or items for that matter.

[I Denizen I]

Sir eyeball it's a 6 year old game, its all over boardgame geek, youtube, reddit and steam.

The place is littered with people advising new players to read character guides, skill guides, equipment guides, mission guides, links to the campaign book.

gtfo with please use spoilers, its not new and hasn't been for a long time.

[Fringehunter7719]

I've always wondered why Gloomhaven considers class names spoilers in the first place.

Saying the class name Beast Tyrant tells me nothing about background, race, story or mechanics, saying its codename two minis actually conveys something about the game I otherwise wouldn't have known.