Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

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Lothemar Sep 17, 2023 @ 5:18am
Should I buy this game?
Hi there. So I'm a big fan of Total War games, ever since the first Rome Total War and Medieval II, and have played all of them, but Three Kingdoms, and I've been eyeing this one for a while now.

Some say this is the best Total War game ever, some say otherwise, now I'm asking you guys to help me decide here and see if this is actually for me. I like a good diplomacy in game, in a way that you can swing the whole tide of the game with it, I like a good combat with innovative additions to it and I've seen that this one has a duel system. Further more I have no clue what the romance mode is either. And are the DLCs worth it at all for the complete experience? Never been a big fan of Chinese history, BUT I'm not too nitpick about it because this game genuinely looks gorgeous.

Give me your thoughts and suggestions, and thank you in advance!
Originally posted by JimmyTheSnake:
Just want to give a shout out to records mode. If you like romance, good. If not, records plays like a true historical game and is one of the better experiences from total war since Warhammer took over. Seriously, try it out.

Diplomacy - Three KIngdoms is similar to other TW titles, but it's also significantly different in mostly good ways. The diplomacy "just works" better than ALL other titles imho. Large coalitions will form during mid to late game. You simply cannot just charge head first in any direction because there are large alliances that will turn against you. It changes the scope of these games and works remarkably well in 3K (unlike other TW where just everyone on the map declares war on you).

Agents -I initially was skeptical of the removal of agents, but it's actually a breath of fresh air. You will likely find them to be an annoyance in other titles after getting used to 3K.

The sieges - I like David v Goliath type defensive battles. In 3K, not only will the AI maneuver on the campaign map to siege undefended settlements but it will also attack even though you have a fairly strong garrison. I have fought 3 armies attacking a fully upgraded commandery and it was quite the spectacle.

Settlement management - This is by far the best designed settlement management system of all the TW's. There's a lot of options available and each has it's own benefits. You can choose which of three different types of income or a combination of them. (farming, industry, commerce) Food is required, but you also have reserves that accumulate or depreciate depending on the weather, sieges, and food income. You can assign a governor to oversee a commandery, but they will join in a siege battle as well. What's great about this is you can choose their army units, then disband the commander and you won't have to pay upkeep and you'll have a powerful section of your defending garrison available.

There's so many good things about 3K and this is especially true imho if you're a historical fan and play on records mode. It truly is an amazing game that got eclipsed by the immense popularity of Warhammer. Warhammer which has overstayed its welcome in my opinion. Truthfully, I wish all future TW's were similar to the settlement system, diplomacy, lack of agents, and design than anything else. It's really well done.
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scrocchi87 Sep 17, 2023 @ 6:03am 
Solid game, romance mode basically allows your hero to be a single, devastating unit. And I mean, sort of superhero very difficult to kill and capable of routing a full unit (1 hero vs e.g. 90 tier 1 units).
This is in line with the source of the game, a "Romance of three kingdoms", where single outstanding individuals were actually able to forge history.
I like the diplomacy system in-game (but nothing outstanding), but I like even more the "relationship" System which allows for extra bonuses if you collect all the generals belonging to certain "alignments";

Bottom-line: worthy game 🎯
Lothemar Sep 17, 2023 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by scrocchi87:
Solid game, romance mode basically allows your hero to be a single, devastating unit. And I mean, sort of superhero very difficult to kill and capable of routing a full unit (1 hero vs e.g. 90 tier 1 units).
This is in line with the source of the game, a "Romance of three kingdoms", where single outstanding individuals were actually able to forge history.
I like the diplomacy system in-game (but nothing outstanding), but I like even more the "relationship" System which allows for extra bonuses if you collect all the generals belonging to certain "alignments";

Bottom-line: worthy game 🎯
Glad to hear that, explains most of things that I've been on the fence about, and romance mode sound like a new addition to Total War games which gives it a bit of flavor.
Oni_fox Sep 17, 2023 @ 8:47am 
its a great game that makes you focus on relationships of characters and diplomacy and spies the combat is fun like Rome or Attila but you can have duels between generals and romance mode makes it a bit more like warhammer with mad powerful lords
Lothemar Sep 17, 2023 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by Oni_fox:
its a great game that makes you focus on relationships of characters and diplomacy and spies the combat is fun like Rome or Attila but you can have duels between generals and romance mode makes it a bit more like warhammer with mad powerful lords
It's good that it's a bit of a romanticised historical take on a game, and I'm kinda digging it.
Plummy Sep 17, 2023 @ 9:52am 
Very good and on discount at the mo.
Elfie Sep 17, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Lothemar:
Hi there. So I'm a big fan of Total War games, ever since the first Rome Total War and Medieval II, and have played all of them, but Three Kingdoms, and I've been eyeing this one for a while now.
Some say this is the best Total War game ever, some say otherwise, now I'm asking you guys to help me decide here and see if this is actually for me. I like a good diplomacy in game, in a way that you can swing the whole tide of the game with it, I like a good combat with innovative additions to it and I've seen that this one has a duel system. Further more I have no clue what the romance mode is either. And are the DLCs worth it at all for the complete experience? !

1) If you love diplomacy and making your dynasty, marriages, friendships, rivalries, spies (ACTUAL spies among your generals who will betray you, not some lousy agents), paired with the smartest diplomacy AI in all of TW games, you will definitely love this game.

2) Combat here is basically Atilla: Total War, but in China, And with slightly improved stability. Unit variety is not much but thats actually historical.

3) Romance mode is the default mode of the game where you have powerful heroes who can single-handedly dispatch hundreds of troops is used correctly. There is an alternative "Records" mode too, where you generals are just normal cav units.

4) DLC's only unlock certain factions or start dates. You don't need them if you are content with the faction choice base game gives you (and tbh this is quite an amount if factions). Mose essential DLCs are free.
For complete experience I do recommend Fury of the Nanman, if you have it installed southern tribes will be much more aggressive and also you can play one of them.
Lothemar Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Elfie:
Originally posted by Lothemar:
Hi there. So I'm a big fan of Total War games, ever since the first Rome Total War and Medieval II, and have played all of them, but Three Kingdoms, and I've been eyeing this one for a while now.
Some say this is the best Total War game ever, some say otherwise, now I'm asking you guys to help me decide here and see if this is actually for me. I like a good diplomacy in game, in a way that you can swing the whole tide of the game with it, I like a good combat with innovative additions to it and I've seen that this one has a duel system. Further more I have no clue what the romance mode is either. And are the DLCs worth it at all for the complete experience? !

1) If you love diplomacy and making your dynasty, marriages, friendships, rivalries, spies (ACTUAL spies among your generals who will betray you, not some lousy agents), paired with the smartest diplomacy AI in all of TW games, you will definitely love this game.

2) Combat here is basically Atilla: Total War, but in China, And with slightly improved stability. Unit variety is not much but thats actually historical.

3) Romance mode is the default mode of the game where you have powerful heroes who can single-handedly dispatch hundreds of troops is used correctly. There is an alternative "Records" mode too, where you generals are just normal cav units.

4) DLC's only unlock certain factions or start dates. You don't need them if you are content with the faction choice base game gives you (and tbh this is quite an amount if factions). Mose essential DLCs are free.
For complete experience I do recommend Fury of the Nanman, if you have it installed southern tribes will be much more aggressive and also you can play one of them.
That sounds pretty badass, thank you so much for your extensive response, I'm definitely going to get this game in a bundle now!
TheOrangeBox Sep 17, 2023 @ 3:02pm 
Of the DLCs these are the ones that add the timeline to the campaign:
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- Mandate of Heaven: takes place 8 years before Three Kingdoms starts.
- A World Betrayed: adds a new start date once more it goes just a little bit ahead to 194 CE.
- Fates Divided: introduces a new start date – 200 CE
They all introduce new characters, units, and mechanics. and re-worked setups for favourite characters.

Worth mentioning the 'The Furious Wild' DLC as an expansion that provides content mainly targeting the vanilla game. The Furious Wild introduces the Nanman culture and the mountainous jungle regions of southern China.
Lothemar Sep 17, 2023 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:
Of the DLCs these are the ones that add the timeline to the campaign:
-
- Mandate of Heaven: takes place 8 years before Three Kingdoms starts.
- A World Betrayed: adds a new start date once more it goes just a little bit ahead to 194 CE.
- Fates Divided: introduces a new start date – 200 CE
They all introduce new characters, units, and mechanics. and re-worked setups for favourite characters.

Worth mentioning the 'The Furious Wild' DLC as an expansion that provides content mainly targeting the vanilla game. The Furious Wild introduces the Nanman culture and the mountainous jungle regions of southern China.
So essentially both are worth picking up at some point?
TheOrangeBox Sep 18, 2023 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Lothemar:
So essentially both are worth picking up at some point?

Eventually yes depending on how much you enjoy the game, the only note is that if you play 'The Furious Wild' isn't much related to the Three Kingdoms storyline so it can be played on its own accord as it adds new provinces on the map to unite the southern China tribes - which is what's all about the DLC.
Lothemar Sep 18, 2023 @ 4:59am 
Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:
Originally posted by Lothemar:
So essentially both are worth picking up at some point?

Eventually yes depending on how much you enjoy the game, the only note is that if you play 'The Furious Wild' isn't much related to the Three Kingdoms storyline so it can be played on its own accord as it adds new provinces on the map to unite the southern China tribes - which is what's all about the DLC.
Sounds good not going to lie. Game seems like a breath of fresh air from all the fantasy warhammer ones. Though I'm not big on Chinese history, this draws me in nonetheless.
Gopher Sep 18, 2023 @ 11:12am 
Honestly I got all the expansions and never play anything but the base game. Zhao Yun is my boy I can't abandon him
Lothemar Sep 18, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Sweaty Gopher:
Honestly I got all the expansions and never play anything but the base game. Zhao Yun is my boy I can't abandon him
So the base game has a lot to offer as is?
Sqrt(-1) Sep 18, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by Lothemar:
Originally posted by Sweaty Gopher:
Honestly I got all the expansions and never play anything but the base game. Zhao Yun is my boy I can't abandon him
So the base game has a lot to offer as is?

Definitely. The base game factions are some of the most fleshed out factions in the game. The DLC factions are a nice change of playstyle, but the Nanman and Yellow Turbans always feel like they have fewer game mechanics and fewer unique characters than the main factions. You may even consider not getting any DLC right now, and instead pick up some in the Autumn or Winter sale in a few months.
Lothemar Sep 18, 2023 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Sqrt(-1):
Originally posted by Lothemar:
So the base game has a lot to offer as is?

Definitely. The base game factions are some of the most fleshed out factions in the game. The DLC factions are a nice change of playstyle, but the Nanman and Yellow Turbans always feel like they have fewer game mechanics and fewer unique characters than the main factions. You may even consider not getting any DLC right now, and instead pick up some in the Autumn or Winter sale in a few months.
Sounds good, thank you for your elaborate response!
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Date Posted: Sep 17, 2023 @ 5:18am
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