CA Please consider making Three Kingdoms II again

[Luxenlolz]

3K is one of the best Total war if not the best imho. Hope CA reconsider making it again. It should sell well on chinese/asian market as well since 3K licence is still selling well. Think about Romance of the three kingdoms games and Dynasty Warriors Origin.

[Zoey]

While I too love this game I don't think there is a point to a follow up title yet. If you take Medieval 1 and compare it to Medieval 2 for example there is a large and meaningful jump to justify the second title. TW:TK however is still modern enough in game-play, features, and graphics.

This time period should be revisited when there have been enough advancements in both hardware and the Warscape engine to give a true leap forward.

[Milites]

On the opposite, chinese players now hate CA so much because they abandoned Three Kingdoms too soon even before they could add a DLC about battle of Red Cliff, not to mention to create a scenario about the real Three Kingdoms period.

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I'd rather they revisit this title like they did with Rome II or just move on to Med III or TW: 30 Years. The game is good enough that it doesn't need a remake, just minor adjustments and more faction diversity. I still can't believe that they ended development right before adding the long-promised northern barbarians, probably the most requested DLC (at least in the west).

Also, I had to laugh at "3K license". Makes me think of the Luo Guanzhong estate raking in license fees for the last 600 years.

[Zoey]

Originally posted by Milites:

On the opposite, chinese players now hate CA so much because they abandoned Three Kingdoms too soon even before they could add a DLC about battle of Red Cliff, not to mention to create a scenario about the real Three Kingdoms period.

The Three Kingdoms start point was never going to happen with how the game functions. They would have had to completely rework the AI to make such a start period feasible. Because capturing and holding the 3 Kingdom capitals is such an easy task. The AI just doesn't understand that the player can drill straight into it and ignore traditional border conflicts and expansion.

Plus by this time period most beloved historical characters that are beloved are either quite old or dead. These important figures and the people who have a love for this time period
Also when in the Three Kingdoms period would this scenario start? Even if we place it when all three kingdoms have been officially declared. Cao Cao is already dead. Just Three years later Liu Bei dies of illness. Even generals we like to picture in our heads as young, heroic, and capable warriors like Zhao Yun are quite aged and dies a mere 6 years after Liu Bei. Sun Quan being notably younger and living to 70 stayed around for notably longer but most of the notable Wu figures of the period are also very old or dead too. Note how badly 8 princes was received because people didn't feel a connection to anyone.

You'd basically have a game starting at its end game and very few people anyone has any emotional investment in. No one actually wanted this DLC they think they do but if they ever got it they would have hated it.

[Milites]

Originally posted by Zoey:

The Three Kingdoms start point was never going to happen with how the game functions. They would have had to completely rework the AI to make such a start period feasible. Because capturing and holding the 3 Kingdom capitals is such an easy task. The AI just doesn't understand that the player can drill straight into it and ignore traditional border conflicts and expansion.

Plus by this time period most beloved historical characters that are beloved are either quite old or dead. These important figures and the people who have a love for this time period
Also when in the Three Kingdoms period would this scenario start? Even if we place it when all three kingdoms have been officially declared. Cao Cao is already dead. Just Three years later Liu Bei dies of illness. Even generals we like to picture in our heads as young, heroic, and capable warriors like Zhao Yun are quite aged and dies a mere 6 years after Liu Bei. Sun Quan being notably younger and living to 70 stayed around for notably longer but most of the notable Wu figures of the period are also very old or dead too. Note how badly 8 princes was received because people didn't feel a connection to anyone.

You'd basically have a game starting at its end game and very few people anyone has any emotional investment in. No one actually wanted this DLC they think they do but if they ever got it they would have hated it.

I do not mean to argue with you. As a chinese myself, I just relayed what I heard from other chinese players. Yes I admit the later period of the Three Kingdoms may not fit the playstyle or the Ai behaviours of the typical TotalWar game, but unfortunately most Chinese Three Kingdoms fans just want it. They're used to the Romance of the three kingdoms series of Koei, which provides different scenarios throughout the whole timeline of it. So I guess CA should at least provide those later period scenarios as well, leave the choice to the players

[Luxenlolz]

"Also, I had to laugh at "3K license". Makes me think of the Luo Guanzhong estate raking in license fees for the last 600 years."

Lol my bad it indeed does sound ridiculous.

Originally posted by Zoey:

While I too love this game I don't think there is a point to a follow up title yet. If you take Medieval 1 and compare it to Medieval 2 for example there is a large and meaningful jump to justify the second title. TW:TK however is still modern enough in game-play, features, and graphics.

This time period should be revisited when there have been enough advancements in both hardware and the Warscape engine to give a true leap forward.

It's true, the game is still recent and a gem but i read somewhere it was originally planned to make a second title but got cancelled at some point sadly. I stille think it could have been nice to have similar improvements to the coop campaign such as simulnateous turns and more than two players per campaign like Warhammer 3 did for exemple. As well as other improvements, more fresh mechanics, factions ect..

Originally posted by Milites:

On the opposite, chinese players now hate CA so much because they abandoned Three Kingdoms too soon even before they could add a DLC about battle of Red Cliff, not to mention to create a scenario about the real Three Kingdoms period.

That is truly a shame. Red cliff was much needed. A Zhuge Liang/Jiang Wei scenario would have been nice too

[AKPanda]

Next title probably will be Medieval TW 3 , since CA other titles not making any good money.

[nullpo]

Originally posted by Milites:

On the opposite, chinese players now hate CA so much because they abandoned Three Kingdoms too soon even before they could add a DLC about battle of Red Cliff, not to mention to create a scenario about the real Three Kingdoms period.

honestly I'm fine without the real three kingdom period, 90% of that era is just court politics on all 3 kingdoms. All engagement lead to some minor changes, but not that much. If Zhuge Liang first northern expedition didn't flunk because of Ma Su arrogance or Liu Bei actually bring proper strategist for his invasion of Wu so he don't camp in such fire prone area, then I might consider it. Most of the first gen general is either dead or close to dead, leaving the less memorable second gen general. There's a reason why the novel rush through the actual 3k era. but who knows, maybe I'm a minority among chinese player.

but the chibi chapter pack is a pity.

[Abaddon]

a dlc for Korea and the norther barbarians would have been cool though.