Playing as liu bei, ai cao cao scheme spam

[Nabster]

So i am in early game, turn 13, have 3 towns, playing hard difficulty, currently at war with cao cao following the story line about the old guy to my left. Cao cao Keep spamming scheme on me, first up is -20 food, which pretty much destroys my campaign. And then more scheme for me every 1 or 2 turns.

What can i do about it? What should i have done early to avoid this, i still want to follow the story line.

I thought about leaving the towns with low food supply and move south, or conferdarate with the old guy or kong rong. Haven't tried it yet.

[KnightedWarrior]

If mods are an option, there is a mod to disable CaoCao AI schemes...
But besides that, You'd have to wait for a real pro.

[E.R.L.]

There are only a few truly crippling schemes, and it is unlikely that Cao Cao will hit you with them every time they're available (he does have limited schemes). So, you can definitely stick it out most of the time. Since you're at war with Cao Cao, you should try to take his faction out as soon as possible if you want to be done with schemes forever. Taking out Cao Cao in the early game has become a better choice now that the schemes mechanic has been introduced.

[Fried Noodles]

Schemes aren't so bad.
You can even take faction-wide food loss as a boon, really.

You're not going to maintain high public order if you're at a food deficit, but Liu Bei wants to fight.

If you're a Second Marquis, you can whack your taxation up to maximum and farm the rebellions. Hire a few generic generals and remove their units so you can recall and deploy them wherever you have a rebellion popping up. You get +3 to Liu Bei's Unity for each successful battle.

[Nabster]

Restarted my compaign and this one is better, i build a stronger army, fighting directly with cao cao, traded some of my land away to fund the army. Took 2 lands away from cai cao, next battle is with his own army, if i can win, then i can stream roll him. But he has done strong calvary, will see.

[Raymond]

Originally posted by Fried Noodles:

Schemes aren't so bad.
You can even take faction-wide food loss as a boon, really.

You're not going to maintain high public order if you're at a food deficit, but Liu Bei wants to fight.

If you're a Second Marquis, you can whack your taxation up to maximum and farm the rebellions. Hire a few generic generals and remove their units so you can recall and deploy them wherever you have a rebellion popping up. You get +3 to Liu Bei's Unity for each successful battle.

most immersive TW player.

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by YariMurai:

most immersive TW player.

The dynastic cycle of Chinese history was built upon a system of adding up all the little numbers to create a greater whole.
And then losing it all to data corruption and civil war.

Or something like that. I forget.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Nabster:

So i am in early game, turn 13, have 3 towns, playing hard difficulty, currently at war with cao cao following the story line about the old guy to my left. Cao cao Keep spamming scheme on me, first up is -20 food, which pretty much destroys my campaign. And then more scheme for me every 1 or 2 turns.

What can i do about it? What should i have done early to avoid this, i still want to follow the story line.

I thought about leaving the towns with low food supply and move south, or conferdarate with the old guy or kong rong. Haven't tried it yet.

1) Make peace with Cao Cao.
2) Scheme him back with your council! (yes Cao has bonus unique schemes but -20 food is council scheme, not unique to Cao for example).
3) Generally if you play on Very Hard or Legendary it is imperative for fun game to not let 2 most dangerous and annoying AI warlords expand. (Cao Cao and Sun family ofc). If you let them be and focus on others they will quickly duke then king then emperor and in the end you will be stuck in unsatisfying & boring cracking of waves of Protectors of Heaven stacks, until you either give up on game of push through to the win.
4) Having negative food will hurt your population & public order but you will need to stay at negative food for LONG time for it to actually affect your troops. Always easy to just take an extra farm from someone like Liu Dai.

[Finwaell]

what. it's pretty much impossible to have negative food. You must be doing something very wrong.

[Erik-Ray]

4 month old necro, and an inherently false statement. Clearly the campaign was in the early stages as Liu Bei, where he only has the fishing point for food early game unless he wars with Kong Rong. Please explain how a +1/2/3 food from the port is supposed to negate the -20 food from Cao Cao's scheme.

Additionally food is good to sell in diplomacy for money. Liu Bei starts with less family estate money, so early game food trade is pretty good.