Liu bei in Shu event

[Maegor]

Can we get a simple -optional- event that occurs sometime later in the game, where we can choose to abandon our provinces to the han dynasty faction, get some extra gold depending on settlement amount held, and then confederate liu biao's territory and teleport there? would be nice to have the potential for an authentic three kingdoms experience, seeing as Sun's and Cao Cao so often take their rightful place, just feels sad absent of a true Shu kingdom, thoughts people?

[Malkuth]

Mandate makes it worse, Sun Juan and Cao Cao usually end up in the south stuck. And unless the player plays Lui Bei he not making it through first 20 turns.

[Vin362]

Events are nice but with the game’s base starting date being 190 A.D and the sandbox nature of the game means seeing all of a factions events is based on luck, if we want to see more events we can only pray CA provides us more starting dates as either a free update or paid DLC later.

[Haddon]

Originally posted by Vin362:

Events are nice but with the game’s base starting date being 190 A.D and the sandbox nature of the game means seeing all of a factions events is based on luck, if we want to see more events we can only pray CA provides us more starting dates as either a free update or paid DLC later.

I am like 90% sure they will either do a 208 or a 214 start date later. The conflict over Jing province is hugely important, it would be very silly of CA not to do that as a chapter pack. And while river warfare isn't in the game, it is possible they will add it for a Chi Bi start date (though most likely not actual naval warfare, just making it like the new Troy game will have)

[StevoTheOutlaw]

Liu Bei can Confederate Liu Biao, it happens when Liu Biao dies but I am not sure what other triggers their are or what the chance of success is.

In my legendary MoH campaign Liu Bei kept hold of PingYuan and took a few provinces from YT ans Dong Zhou. He confederated with Liu Biao open his death and is currently at war with Liu Zhang.


I am playing as Liu Chong.

I have also seen him do this a few times during warlords start date, so happens in main campaign as well.

If they are going to bring in an event for Bei to go to war with Zhang, automatically fair enough but it will come with a Yi campaign start date, or a start date far more relevant to the actual event, not one that happens like 30 years beforehand.

[Bill D. Garrison]

Originally posted by StevoTheOutlaw:

Liu Bei can Confederate Liu Biao, it happens when Liu Biao dies but I am not sure what other triggers their are or what the chance of success is.

In my legendary MoH campaign Liu Bei kept hold of PingYuan and took a few provinces from YT ans Dong Zhou. He confederated with Liu Biao open his death and is currently at war with Liu Zhang.


I am playing as Liu Chong.

I have also seen him do this a few times during warlords start date, so happens in main campaign as well.

If they are going to bring in an event for Bei to go to war with Zhang, automatically fair enough but it will come with a Yi campaign start date, or a start date far more relevant to the actual event, not one that happens like 30 years beforehand.

There is no event when Liu Biao dies and Lei Bei gets his land.

[StevoTheOutlaw]

Yes there is, it happens in maybe 30/40% of my campaigns.

When you play as Liu Bei have it as one of your objectives, when ai is Liu Bei he has a chance to confederate Liu Biao upon Biao's death.

If you want to do it as the player, just migrate there yourself?

In the novel Biao offered to give Bei his territory but Bei turned him down (then Biao's son sold Bei out and gave all the territory to Cao Cao). Bei did win back/take control of some of Jing province though after the battle of Chi Bi.

It isn't actually historically accurate that Biao gives Bei his lands.

With the Zhang event it should also be optional, as Zhang asked for Bei's help against Zhang Lu. Bei came, but then betrayed Zhang and marched on Cheng Du, with Zhang eventually surrendering.

I hope they keep the events open ended, because locking events in the sandbox ruins it a little bit.

[StevoTheOutlaw]

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/241745/event-for-liu-biaos-death-happens-in-203-when-he-actually-died-in-208

Just to prove that it does happen.~

https://steamcommunity.com/id/OutlawGaming/screenshots also I just took a screenshot of Liu Bei warring with Liu Zhang, and owning part of the bottom/southwest part of the map.

[Jerroser]

There is definitely an event in the game where Liu Bei gets to confederate Liu Biao's lands upon his death but I'm not sure if it is given to the player or is exclusive to the AI. I think the player is often just given a mission to try and confederate Liu Biao's faction through diplomacy while it happens automatically if he is controlled by the AI.

Although since he often still had some territory close to his starting location, this leads to Liu Bei holding a rather awkwardly laid out kingdom. But right now its probably the best way CA could think of to try and guide him in the direction of where his actual Kingdom of Shu was based.

[Maegor]

seems maybe there is some sort of event because i'm Yuan shu and i've totally wiped out liu biao, but it's 197 and liu bei is suddenly in shangyong commandry with no ajoining lands for miles

[Vin362]

Originally posted by Maegor:

seems maybe there is some sort of event because i'm Yuan shu and i've totally wiped out liu biao, but it's 197 and liu bei is suddenly in shangyong commandry with no ajoining lands for miles

Due to Liu Bei’s ability to annex Han territories it is possible one of his armies made their way to one of the Han commanderies, and in the Mandate of Heaven Liu Bei will annex the Han commanderies near his starting location. So he probably annexed it but like others have mentioned I have seen Liu Bei’s A.I confederate with Liu Biao but that is the last event I’ve seen.

[Aman!]

Just ♥♥♥♥ these events and found your capital in PengCheng near TaoQian. The land will give you +10 to your men and quickly annexing of many lands. Liu Bei has three armies to start with, which allow battling HuangJin in the north and expanding in the south at the same time.

[Makeithappen]

Originally posted by Vin362:

Events are nice but with the game’s base starting date being 190 A.D and the sandbox nature of the game means seeing all of a factions events is based on luck, if we want to see more events we can only pray CA provides us more starting dates as either a free update or paid DLC later.

I'm hoping for a 192 or so start. WIth Lu Bu in Cao Cao's lands and Liu Bei on the run. I would very much like to reinact Xiahou Dun's actions during that war with Lu Bu.

Unless there is a way to play two factions at once like Dong Zhuo and Cao Cao I see this not happening very often. There is an event for Lu Bu but I've only had it trigger when he was part of my court in a MoH playthrough.

[Degenerate Trap]

Originally posted by Malkuth:

Mandate makes it worse, Sun Juan and Cao Cao usually end up in the south stuck. And unless the player plays Lui Bei he not making it through first 20 turns.

My AI Liu actually suprised me since I thought he would die in the first 10 turns too..but for some reasons he beat back the yerrow turban and annexed liu Biao, now he and Yuan Shao fought for hegemony up north. Dong Zhou got the emprah and died 2 turns later which Lu Bu took over...Weird game for me.