Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

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MOMO & YUNA Dec 29, 2022 @ 11:29pm
Ma Chao automatically leaves Ma Teng (Player)
In my Rise of Warlords campaign as Ma Teng, year 211 turn 106, Ma Chao automatically left me without a message and no obvious cause. He had high satisfaction (70 - 80) with a high title salary plus the heir position. I have no clue why he left me.

But he married a daughter of Dong many years ago (receiving marriage). His wife and kids are still with me.

I checked Dong's family tree and found him there with Dong's flag.

Is this a scripted event or some thing else?

I don't mind if this is a scripted event to follow the story, but at least it should give me a message to explain a little bit.
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Lain Dec 30, 2022 @ 4:30am 
Should not be scripted or a story part.

I'd perhaps reload and make sure you didn't miss a message or a change in satisfaction.

Can you see if he got a grudge against your faction now that he's in Dong's?
If he got a grudge, it's likely his satisfaction tanked (gained rivalry, hostile spy actions, faction council actions etc).
Last edited by Lain; Dec 30, 2022 @ 4:30am
Fried Noodles Dec 30, 2022 @ 7:16am 
Story events stop after a few years. I don't think there's anything that should happen around 211.
There's also no story precedent for Ma Chao to join Dong Zhuo's faction (which shouldn't even exist by that point).

There're a few things that could have caused this.

Were you vassal to the Dong faction? There is a faction council mission that the AI also has access to that can allow the overlord to 'kidnap' the heir of one of their factions.

Ma Chao's satisfaction was high at the time he left, but at any point his satisfaction dipped he could have been available as a turncoat to other factions since he does not have any particular 'loyal' traits.
It's possible that he was taken as a spy and then recalled on the turn he disappeared.
MOMO & YUNA Dec 30, 2022 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Fried Noodles:
Story events stop after a few years. I don't think there's anything that should happen around 211.
There's also no story precedent for Ma Chao to join Dong Zhuo's faction (which shouldn't even exist by that point).

There're a few things that could have caused this.

Were you vassal to the Dong faction? There is a faction council mission that the AI also has access to that can allow the overlord to 'kidnap' the heir of one of their factions.

Ma Chao's satisfaction was high at the time he left, but at any point his satisfaction dipped he could have been available as a turncoat to other factions since he does not have any particular 'loyal' traits.
It's possible that he was taken as a spy and then recalled on the turn he disappeared.

That is probably my case. Yes I was a vassal of Dong. And yes Ma Chao had an "X" with his daddy, and yes his satisfaction was low many years before.

Dang it, I should not have trusted Dong.

Thank you very much for your evaluation.

And also thank Lain for your time and answer.
Kijin Eira Dec 30, 2022 @ 6:51pm 
Overlords of Vassals can take Heir's as hostages.
MOMO & YUNA Dec 30, 2022 @ 8:01pm 
Will the overlord send the hostage back?
Kijin Eira Dec 31, 2022 @ 2:32am 
lolno.
Jerroser Dec 31, 2022 @ 4:42am 
Despite the game calling it a hostage event, its really just the overload pitching the heir of another faction an keeping them as their own general.
Muerte Jan 3, 2023 @ 6:56pm 
You got Donged
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Date Posted: Dec 29, 2022 @ 11:29pm
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