I think it's time for Shu-Wei-Wu period DLC?

[Nickk]

Who cares about starting as Cao Cao for the 100th times? It's time to introduce Jiang Wei, Deng Ai, Zhung Hoi, Lu Xun, Ma Su, Sima Zhao, Sima Shi... all the young generals and strategist. Maybe the period after Zhuge Liang dies? Or you can keep him if you play as Shu.

Might be the last DLC if CA decides to make them since it's so late, I think the 7 Princes DLC was just a waste of time nobody cares about that period.

[temperate06]

maybe next year

[Sqrt(-1)]

I think they would do at least one chapter pack before (like Chibi), maybe two. If they did the Three Kingdoms period right now, even if they introduced another 12 new characters, so many people would be dead or old that it would soon be generics only.

Setting it after Zhuge Liang's death in 234 basically means everyone who is alive at the start is dead. Also, I think part of the appeal of a Three Kingdoms start is having Zhuge Liang fight Sima Yi, so I don't really think they will release a start date that late.

[Ryan]

After the battle of Chibi it should happen then it will lead to Zhuge Liang expedition then Sima Yi taking over Wei and then fall of Shu and Wu after.

[Literally Me]

Right now working off previous CA statement's the next DLC is an expansion, Most likely this will be Xiongnu although it's not confirmed. A Shu Wei-Wu pack would come long in the distant future if it does, and as others mentioned it would be after a few other expansions and chapter packs. Hopefully we get that far down the DLC chain, but it all depends on CA. I'm not sure what the life of this game will be in their eyes

[Nickk]

Originally posted by Vevut:

Right now working off previous CA statement's the next DLC is an expansion, Most likely this will be Xiongnu although it's not confirmed. A Shu Wei-Wu pack would come long in the distant future if it does, and as others mentioned it would be after a few other expansions and chapter packs. Hopefully we get that far down the DLC chain, but it all depends on CA. I'm not sure what the life of this game will be in their eyes

That's also ok, more unique faction like the Nam Man is nice. Just don't want another starting period starting old factions.

[Sardorim]

Maybe next year...

They still have to do Chibi and Liu Bei enters Shu.

Then they can do Early 3k, Yiling, Late 3k, The Fall of Shu and Wu.

[Metadragon]

That'd be pretty boring though. A true version of this were long stalemates in between the occasional campaigning. And once one side declares war on one the other will sense weakness and also attack.

It'd just be like playing the last 1/3rd of a normal campaign.

[Jerroser]

I expect that to be next after the Northern tribes expansion given that they clearly seem to be going through the chapter packs in historical order where Chi Bi or the set up the would lead to it would logically be the next major event.

I assume what they will do in this one is focus on expanding Liu Bei's faction while introducing a "new" faction for Sun Quan with a new set of faction mechanics.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Metadragon: Destroyer of Hope:

That'd be pretty boring though. A true version of this were long stalemates in between the occasional campaigning. And once one side declares war on one the other will sense weakness and also attack.

It'd just be like playing the last 1/3rd of a normal campaign.

It a starting period, this game allows you to do anything you want. You can follow the story or do something random. I myself if they plan to make it would follow the story and then do something random like make peace with Wei and delcare war on Wu as Shu. Think about all the new character in this period, mostly second generation and it would almost complete 3k.

[Haddon]

Originally posted by Sqrt(-1):

I think they would do at least one chapter pack before (like Chibi), maybe two. If they did the Three Kingdoms period right now, even if they introduced another 12 new characters, so many people would be dead or old that it would soon be generics only.

Setting it after Zhuge Liang's death in 234 basically means everyone who is alive at the start is dead. Also, I think part of the appeal of a Three Kingdoms start is having Zhuge Liang fight Sima Yi, so I don't really think they will release a start date that late.

211. It isn't quite the eponymous 3K just yet, https://imgur.com/a/ea6m1PN but the three are there, while you also still have a few other factions. Can you hold against Cao Cao as Han Sui (I bet they will add him) or Ma Chao, can you hold off Liu Bei as Zhang, can you take and hold Jing province as Liu Bei? Perfect start date. 214 also works, though i don't think quite as well.

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by Ryan:

Originally posted by Metadragon: Destroyer of Hope:

That'd be pretty boring though. A true version of this were long stalemates in between the occasional campaigning. And once one side declares war on one the other will sense weakness and also attack.

It'd just be like playing the last 1/3rd of a normal campaign.

It a starting period, this game allows you to do anything you want. You can follow the story or do something random. I myself if they plan to make it would follow the story and then do something random like make peace with Wei and delcare war on Wu as Shu. Think about all the new character in this period, mostly second generation and it would almost complete 3k.

Characters dont mean much if the setting is stagnant. It would if it were more an RPG or simulation game like ROTK but having three super powers with large tracts of land strikes me as boring. The chaos of smaller factions gunning around is the essence of Total War.

The only other time we see huge established Empire's in Total War that sort of work is Attila and one is all about stopping its collapse and the other managing relationships, and both WRE and ERE are beset by dozens of factions which may be smaller but you are so corrupt that its tough to field 2 armies despite your size and those armies are inferior to most other troops until later in the game.

Three Kingdoms would have to implement something like that but to do so would mean drastically expanding the map and pool of enemies or making corruption and faction management the central focus (rebelling generals taking land with them, or its less Empire and more a series of Vassals etc) for it to work.

I'm not adverse to the idea of a proper Three Kingdoms era game but I have my doubts as to how they could implement it.

[Sardorim]

Originally posted by Sqrt(-1):

I think they would do at least one chapter pack before (like Chibi), maybe two. If they did the Three Kingdoms period right now, even if they introduced another 12 new characters, so many people would be dead or old that it would soon be generics only.

Setting it after Zhuge Liang's death in 234 basically means everyone who is alive at the start is dead. Also, I think part of the appeal of a Three Kingdoms start is having Zhuge Liang fight Sima Yi, so I don't really think they will release a start date that late.

They have to. The Fall of Shu and Wu are very important to the era. So what if Zhuge Liang is dead?

[Sqrt(-1)]

Originally posted by Sardorim:

They have to. The Fall of Shu and Wu are very important to the era. So what if Zhuge Liang is dead?

Zhuge Liang is the most important character of the story, even more than Liu Bei. Most adaptions of the Three Kingdoms stop after his death, and even the 2010 show stopped after Sima Yi's take-over. After Zhuge Liang dies, everyone else is kind of disappointing. Shu has Jiang Wei, but he is a poor man's Zhuge Liang. Wei has Sima Yi, but he dies not long after. Wu goes completely off the rails. And Jin may have Sima Zhao and Jia Chong, but they are not that smart, while Zhong Hui and Deng Ai destroy each other.

Any start after Zhuge Liang's death just lacks the "age of heroes" feeling, because all the heroes are dead.

So while the era is definitely important, I don't see it being turned into a chapter pack.

[Haddon]

Originally posted by Sqrt(-1):

Originally posted by Sardorim:

They have to. The Fall of Shu and Wu are very important to the era. So what if Zhuge Liang is dead?

Zhuge Liang is the most important character of the story, even more than Liu Bei. Most adaptions of the Three Kingdoms stop after his death, and even the 2010 show stopped after Sima Yi's take-over. After Zhuge Liang dies, everyone else is kind of disappointing. Shu has Jiang Wei, but he is a poor man's Zhuge Liang. Wei has Sima Yi, but he dies not long after. Wu goes completely off the rails. And Jin may have Sima Zhao and Jia Chong, but they are not that smart, while Zhong Hui and Deng Ai destroy each other.

Any start after Zhuge Liang's death just lacks the "age of heroes" feeling, because all the heroes are dead.

So while the era is definitely important, I don't see it being turned into a chapter pack.

I think Cao Cao is the most important. He is the reason the Han collapsed, IMO, above all others. Capturing and holding the emperor for what like 25 years? It was his success in the north that made Zhuge Liang devise his grand three kingdoms strategy, and the only reason Liu Bei was able to form an alliance with the Sun is they were worried about Cao. Without that alliances, there wouldn't have been time to form a Shu.

[Nickk]

Originally posted by Haddon:

Originally posted by Sqrt(-1):

Zhuge Liang is the most important character of the story, even more than Liu Bei. Most adaptions of the Three Kingdoms stop after his death, and even the 2010 show stopped after Sima Yi's take-over. After Zhuge Liang dies, everyone else is kind of disappointing. Shu has Jiang Wei, but he is a poor man's Zhuge Liang. Wei has Sima Yi, but he dies not long after. Wu goes completely off the rails. And Jin may have Sima Zhao and Jia Chong, but they are not that smart, while Zhong Hui and Deng Ai destroy each other.

Any start after Zhuge Liang's death just lacks the "age of heroes" feeling, because all the heroes are dead.

So while the era is definitely important, I don't see it being turned into a chapter pack.

I think Cao Cao is the most important. He is the reason the Han collapsed, IMO, above all others. Capturing and holding the emperor for what like 25 years? It was his success in the north that made Zhuge Liang devise his grand three kingdoms strategy, and the only reason Liu Bei was able to form an alliance with the Sun is they were worried about Cao. Without that alliances, there wouldn't have been time to form a Shu.

Any character is important, Chen Gong is important since it it wasn't for him Cao Cao would be dead from the start, yet he killed Chen Gong. Yuan Shao is important since if it wasn't him who hosted the party there wouldn't be the unions of the 18 factions to rebel against Dong Zhou.