Zhang Brothers are broken and greatly overpowered for AI to handle

[myperfectvictory]

It's the same results in most of my playthroughs so far throughout MoH. Zhang Bao and Zhang Jue are the most beefy to deal with. Zhang Liang just sits there and does nothing. Yuan Shao and Liu Bei become decimated fast. There's no way I could realistically intervene to stop that when they are able to do so in under 5 turns with fully stacked armies. Where is Gongsun Zan? Has anyone ever seen this faction rise throughout MoH? Then the brothers ping pong their way across the river and into the bandit territory. Don't get me started on how broken the fervour mechanic is.

Why is He Jin's army hardcoded to remain put at the capital? I understand the history of what happens to him, but that army would be very useful for the AI to preserve the factions that are historically accurate. The only time He Jin's army moves is when there is an enemy on the land.

[myperfectvictory]

Another issue I have this :

https://imgur.com/a/SJWpEh3

Is this a bug? Are the turbans able to recruit outside generals?

[JuX]

If they are such a problem for you then try another faction.

Playing as the emperor gives access to the royal army which in manual battles absolutely smashes the yellow turban rebellion and only thing that slows you down is their weak replenishment.


The computer aren't really suppose the be dealing with it all that great, as the entire empire is crippled. You can help bolster them as emperor with warlord influence and reclaiming their lands. If all of them played like in standard game then it would be the shortest campaing ever.

Im still fairly early in my campaing of Mandate of heaven, but i have at least 4 factions now with military strength. Dong smashing some territory of that scum in the west. Liu Chong smashing rebels in the north and couple random factions in the south barely managing it.

So long as you play as the emperor they do not seem all that bad, while they are weak for a reason. Im not having any issues with fervor yet either, as im conquering territory going up north to deal with the brothers. Sure there is lot of unhappiness within these territory but nothing i can't handle with mustering troops to crush any rising rebellions or selling territories i dont need to my subjects.

[myperfectvictory]

İlk olarak JuX tarafından gönderildi:

If they are such a problem for you then try another faction.

Playing as the emperor gives access to the royal army which in manual battles absolutely smashes the yellow turban rebellion and only thing that slows you down is their weak replenishment.


The computer aren't really suppose the be dealing with it all that great, as the entire empire is crippled. You can help bolster them as emperor with warlord influence and reclaiming their lands. If all of them played like in standard game then it would be the shortest campaing ever.

Im still fairly early in my campaing of Mandate of heaven, but i have at least 4 factions now with military strength. Dong smashing some territory of that scum in the west. Liu Chong smashing rebels in the north and couple random factions in the south barely managing it.

So long as you play as the emperor they do not seem all that bad, while they are weak for a reason. Im not having any issues with fervor yet either, as im conquering territory going up north to deal with the brothers. Sure there is lot of unhappiness within these territory but nothing i can't handle with mustering troops to crush any rising rebellions or selling territories i dont need to my subjects.

You need to improve on your lack of reading comprehension skills.

Where do I state that they are a problem for ME, the player? They are a problem for the AI. The AI are being pummeled by the Zhang. My armies cannot be everywhere at once to intervene, especially when I am not at least a second marquis or with a reform that allows a second army. Learn to read and comprehend what is being conveyed. This is a major problem in today's world because people like you jump to conclusions which leads to misunderstanding.

Play as another faction? I've already played all of them as it is, but what the hell is that going to solve for the AI? Yuan Shao and Liu Bei get decimated, no matter what faction you choose. Gongsun Zan's faction never rises either.

Sure you can choose emperor and actually move He Jin's army, then its easy game, but I prefer a BALANCED challenge

[Wolf King]

ripple man you're rude as all hell. he responded how he understood. correct him sure but to act like an a** isnt called for.
AI smashes the yellow turban rebellion too easily in all my play throughs on legendary and liu bei, yuan shao, dong zhou, gongsan tend to dominate the map with Cao Cao staying south conquering the empty territories so there definitely something weird with MoH in general

[myperfectvictory]

İlk olarak Wolf King tarafından gönderildi:

ripple man you're rude as all hell. he responded how he understood. correct him sure but to act like an a** isnt called for.
AI smashes the yellow turban rebellion too easily in all my play throughs on legendary and liu bei, yuan shao, dong zhou, gongsan tend to dominate the map with Cao Cao staying south conquering the empty territories so there definitely something weird with MoH in general

The title states "Zhang brothers are broken and greatly overpowered for AI to handle" I am still trying to find the piece in my paragraph that would lead one to come up with the conclusion that Zhang is problem for player when I stated it is problem for AI