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Here's CA's official stance:https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/avd6hy/were_the_team_behind_total_war_three_kingdoms_and/eheqyzu/
Hell, good luck doing a 'historical-only Total War' game that leaves fans wondering 'I'm playing Dong Zhuo but why's Lu Bu having a falling out with him with no Diaochan around?'... you know, that being his Records Mode faction dilemma and all...CA's specifically ruled out this request:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/avd6hy/were_the_team_behind_total_war_three_kingdoms_and/ehetrqk/
For what it's worth though, the meta I've described re: champions and vanguards in Records may be subject to change depending on how vanguards in particular change, e.g. what are the Records-only skills for both character classes. Without this, I can't even approximate just how powerful or not a 'turn 1' Records Lu Bu would be...
afaik the elements that I suggested belong to koei 3k strategy games. ca's romance mode is, I think, DW mode, which is absurd for strategy games especially in case of tw style bc it's genre is totally different from tw. if ca doesn't get what 3k strategy game that most of 3k strategy players used to play is, why don't they just follow koei 3k strategy games? bc they have experience nearly for 30yrs, then at least this disaster wouldn't have occurred.
why does ca make 'record mode' anyway? if Guan yu doesn't have meaning, who would play like this?
Which mode did you play?
Me. I have literally zero interest in ANOTHER title just like RoTK series with a different battle system, I would love a realistic portrayal of the period, because it is never done. I have no interest in god-mode Lu Bu, he was just a dude (and an absolute moron), not a demigod. There are lots of us who want a historical title, and a title set in China. There are lots of us who have no interest in playing another fantasy Total War. There are a lot of us who got in to TW because it was a historical series, that strove to be somewhat realistic, but moreso when it comes to battle than any other series by a long shot.
Records mode is exactly that.
No he is not god-mode in Records mode and no he was not just a dude and absolute moron.
You're lucky then because this is a historical title and set in china. Records mode is not a fantasy Total War.
Good thing then that this is still a historical series that strives to be more than just somewhat realistic.
tw3k was the only game that could represent exactly as it is. Lubu doesn't have to be a demi god to be Lubu if there were proper duel system and proper balance with general bodyguards and little exaggerated special abilities. I also want it to be realistic, but also romantisized as well simultaneously as 3k story it is. it could have been done as 'the 3k' is, but this is just DW version of 3k or nothing like 3k story. do you want a 3k game in which Guan yu could be killed by any nameless champion?
Records isn't realistic at all. It is Romance mode with some balance changes and minor artistic changes (like getting rid of weapons that belong in a fantasy game). Lu Bu WAS just a dude. A dude who was good at fighting, that is all. And he lost battles repeatedly, even in situations where he had strategic and tactical advantages because he was outsmarted repeatedly. He was a rash, idiot.
TW is increasingly unrealistic. The balance has been leaning more and more to arcady nonsense. CA has touted the battles for Records like "they can last 15 minutes!" ♥♥♥♥♥ please, that is Dynasty Warrior-speed battles, it is still men dying by the hundreds rather than being routed, it is still horse charges that send people flying with a single charge killing hundred because they are light troops. Arrows can still decimate troops, siege weapons are still used against infantry, repeating crossbows are treating like a regular crossbow with lower numbers. From what I can tell, there are still trebuchets that wouldn't exist for around 1000 years in Records, there are still armors that never existed.
LOL no, this is not Dynasty Warriors level of "fantasy". The records mode provided here is pretty much exactly as close to the amount of "realistic portrayal" to be found in media such as the movie Red Cliff or the TV series.
What you describe as the thing you want is what records mode provides. You don't seem to realize it thou because you have some weird misconception about what is what.
Characters such as Guan Yu have ordinary stats like other nameless ordinary characters, however since Guan Yu is well known to be top tier of ordinary men, he has the slight edge in stats that he deserves to have within the limits of being an ordinary man.
Does none of you watch soccer or play Fifa? Some men are gonna be pro's like Ronaldo and others are gonna be average pro soccer player.
You don't know what Dynasty Warriors is nor what Records mode is nor what you want nor what this "3k story" is that you keep refering to. To put it in your words, what you write is bs that sucks balls.
From bronze age egyptians and split roman faction in rtw, to a unified hre (or spain) with standard agnatic primogeniture succession in med2, to the way samurai are depicted in shogun2, etc... These are but the most obvious transgressions. There are plenty more for the keen eye as well as unrealism borne out of necessary game mechanics like being able to keep an entire army embarked while sailing across the mediterranean for multiple turns (aka years). The point is a lot of these inaccuracies and unrealistic aspects exist and are tolerated if not encouraged because they largely play into the community’s cognitive bias.
Is it ca’s job to educate the masses by producing more faithful content with high regard towards realistic fidelity? Not really, as a business I expect them to do what’s more profitable. In 2004, that meant creating anachronistic egyptians, in 2013 the community had somewhat matured to the extent that more (a relative terminology) historically faithful factions was the appropriate choice. Here, it seems like the prevailing sentiment is that the novels have had such a significant cultural impact that it’s almost unreasonable not to play into the expectations its left in us. Not everyone is like this, clearly you’re of the constrastic opinion. And while I won’t disagree that there likely is a lot of you, in vague terms it’s probably still a minority within the consumer base ca is targeting.
Ultimately this probably doesn’t matter all that much so long as the base game mechanics are engaging and moddable. Each title afaik has had some mod ramp up realism from europa barbarorum to steel faith overhaul. So I doubt you and others wanting a more genuine experience will lack for mods that do just that. Thus is the fate of preference based design elements these days.