Custom character and customer faction?

[BAGHolder]

Not sure if some-one has mentioned this already...but that is my biggest wish and hope for this & all future total war games. Even make it a regular DLC like blood & gore, many people will appreciate this. (for those who do not like it, just do not create custom character nor custom faction)

For characters, the 3D modelling could be just a few generic male / female choices; then custom face portraits, custom weapon choice, and ability and trait choices (warhammer 2 has a really nice and popular mod for custom lord by the way).

Custom faction should be easy, thought without any unique mechanism like other factions.

I know the hope is slim...

[THEDOSSBOSS]

I only want a multiplayer system like, but heavily improved upon, shogun 2's avatar conquest. I don't want customising available in the single player campaign, however.

[rincewind]

I would gladly pay for a DLC for that.
Like my own Total War 3K: Empires!
(And, if you can read this KOEI... c'mon! Hurry with that Dynasty Warriors 9: Empires!!)

[⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞]

I might be interested in that some how. But I think the issue is with player based custom characters. Where is the story?

[THEDOSSBOSS]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

I might be interested in that some how. But I think the issue is with player based custom characters. Where is the story?

Which is exactly why it is suited for MP gameplay, not single player. Too many rpg elements in the single ayer and it takes away from the actual strategy elements

[⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞]

Yeah, I think I was against the idea earlier before much development of the game was shown. Now I don't mind, if they make it work similar or better to how shogun 2 was then great. Though I've only really been interested in co-op campaigns not pvp battles with randoms.

[rincewind]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

I might be interested in that some how. But I think the issue is with player based custom characters. Where is the story?

You make your own? Recruit whatever you fancy. Go to war to whatever you want.
It's a sandbox after all.

[⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞]

Originally posted by rincewind:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

I might be interested in that some how. But I think the issue is with player based custom characters. Where is the story?

You make your own? Recruit whatever you fancy. Go to war to whatever you want.
It's a sandbox after all.

Yes it's sandbox and I understand deciding your own fate etc. But the beauty of the pre-created characters is the fact that they have a rich and fleshed out story/existance. Not that I lack imagination but I much prefer the idea in these games that we take on becoming "this person" whoever they are. And it is just as immersive.

All the characters are designed for the universe that the sandbox revolves around and so they are all tied into the story of the gameplay. Introducing a completely generic character feels like it doesn't fit. There is a lot of detail that goes into these games characters.

I just mean, they do a lot to bring to life the characters, and a generic one wouldn't do the game any justice. But all the same, if this was a reality then I might be interested depending on how it was done.

[Poljanan]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

Originally posted by rincewind:

You make your own? Recruit whatever you fancy. Go to war to whatever you want.
It's a sandbox after all.

Yes it's sandbox and I understand deciding your own fate etc. But the beauty of the pre-created characters is the fact that they have a rich and fleshed out story/existance. Not that I lack imagination but I much prefer the idea in these games that we take on becoming "this person" whoever they are. And it is just as immersive.

All the characters are designed for the universe that the sandbox revolves around and so they are all tied into the story of the gameplay. Introducing a completely generic character feels like it doesn't fit. There is a lot of detail that goes into these games characters.

I just mean, they do a lot to bring to life the characters, and a generic one wouldn't do the game any justice. But all the same, if this was a reality then I might be interested depending on how it was done.

Says the guy who supports the idea of Zheng Jiang, aka a literal foot note with no personality at all that CA just made up. How is a complete nobody that is a custom character going to be any different? You can just make up ♥♥♥♥ like say, Ma Ling was a pork bun peddler in Xuchang back in 220 AD, but war has driven her and her family into a life of a vagabond and took up banditry to survive until she and her accomplices were captured by Cao Pi, where in she became an officer after the king of Cao Wei became impressed in her skill.

[⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

Yes it's sandbox and I understand deciding your own fate etc. But the beauty of the pre-created characters is the fact that they have a rich and fleshed out story/existance. Not that I lack imagination but I much prefer the idea in these games that we take on becoming "this person" whoever they are. And it is just as immersive.

All the characters are designed for the universe that the sandbox revolves around and so they are all tied into the story of the gameplay. Introducing a completely generic character feels like it doesn't fit. There is a lot of detail that goes into these games characters.

I just mean, they do a lot to bring to life the characters, and a generic one wouldn't do the game any justice. But all the same, if this was a reality then I might be interested depending on how it was done.

Says the guy who supports the idea of Zheng Jiang, aka a literal foot note with no personality at all that CA just made up.

Don't need to read the rest. But yes, they have provided a lot of detail for her story and thus the context for her existance and presence within the time frame and area of this game. In other words she is fleshed out, which is the difference of adding a generic character without a specific or dedicated story.

[Poljanan]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

Originally posted by Poljanan:

Says the guy who supports the idea of Zheng Jiang, aka a literal foot note with no personality at all that CA just made up.

Don't need to read the rest. But yes, they have provided a lot of detail for her story and thus the context for her existance and presence within the time frame and area of this game. In other words she is fleshed out, which is the difference of adding a generic character without a specific or dedicated story.

Then you are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypocrite because what CA added is nothing but bollocks and is only canon to this very game. No other RoTK media and 3 Kingdoms media acknowledges Zheng Jiang's existence at all. There are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dozens of exemplary female characters in the 3K period and they chose this nobody. Just like they wasted a slot for Vampire Coast with Clyostra.

[DarkShadow]

Originally posted by Poljanan:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

Don't need to read the rest. But yes, they have provided a lot of detail for her story and thus the context for her existance and presence within the time frame and area of this game. In other words she is fleshed out, which is the difference of adding a generic character without a specific or dedicated story.

Then you are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypocrite because what CA added is nothing but bollocks and is only canon to this very game. No other RoTK media and 3 Kingdoms media acknowledges Zheng Jiang's existence at all. There are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dozens of exemplary female characters in the 3K period and they chose this nobody. Just like they wasted a slot for Vampire Coast with Clyostra.

Just out of curiosity, how many of these dozens of female characters fit the role of a bandit with little or no ties to any other faction? Since CA specifically said that's what they were going for as she's meant to be a challenge for the more veteran players.

[rincewind]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

Originally posted by rincewind:

You make your own? Recruit whatever you fancy. Go to war to whatever you want.
It's a sandbox after all.

Yes it's sandbox and I understand deciding your own fate etc. But the beauty of the pre-created characters is the fact that they have a rich and fleshed out story/existance. Not that I lack imagination but I much prefer the idea in these games that we take on becoming "this person" whoever they are. And it is just as immersive.

All the characters are designed for the universe that the sandbox revolves around and so they are all tied into the story of the gameplay. Introducing a completely generic character feels like it doesn't fit. There is a lot of detail that goes into these games characters.

I just mean, they do a lot to bring to life the characters, and a generic one wouldn't do the game any justice. But all the same, if this was a reality then I might be interested depending on how it was done.

In the DW:E games I love making my own warlord(lady, let's be honest here) and take all China by myself. Forging my own allies and enemies and writing my own destiny.
Surely will work well for Total War too.
If they decide to do it, that' it. (Probably not, but let me dream.)

[⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞]

@Po No, they have in fact added a lot of detail to her character and story, just check it out. There is some useful information on this video posted by Naotomi on this thread. https://steamcommunity.com/app/779340/discussions/0/1743353798878256419/
:)

@Ricewind, that's cool. I've never played it so don't know anything about it. I like Mount and Blade for very much the same reason you describe though. So I do understand, I guess the feature wouldn't hurt but I don't think they will. Least not for single play.

[rincewind]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

@Po No, they have in fact added a lot of detail to her character and story, just check it out. There is some useful information on this video posted by Naotomi on this thread. https://steamcommunity.com/app/779340/discussions/0/1743353798878256419/
:)

@Ricewind, that's cool. I've never played it so don't know anything about it. I like Mount and Blade for very much the same reason you describe though. So I do understand, I guess the feature wouldn't hurt but I don't think they will. Least not for single play.

Yeah, they will probably not do it.
And if they do it for multi... I don't even play multiplayer.

Guess that my best bet is going back to yell to KOEI to make DW9:E soon. (Or bring SW4E to PC, that's fine too!)

[Poljanan]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ AlilSneezyPanda ⎠⎞:

@Po No, they have in fact added a lot of detail to her character and story, just check it out. There is some useful information on this video posted by Naotomi on this thread. https://steamcommunity.com/app/779340/discussions/0/1743353798878256419/
:)

That's my point you bootlicker. This story that CA fabricated only exists within this game, because guess again, this person has never existed beyond being a female bandit so CA had to make a deviantart tier backstory for her whereas people like Cao Cao and Liu Bei had discernable traits and personalities that people have known over the centuries. Again, this is what they literally did with that awful OC Clyostra in Vampire Coast.