Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

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Han Jan 25, 2020 @ 9:19am
Heartbroken/Sickly trait
Xun Yu keeps getting this trait. I dont know if its part of my mods (Wu King, and some unit graphics enhancements) or vanilla. He has reasonable satisfaction 30+
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RCMidas (Banned) Jan 25, 2020 @ 9:41am 
I don't know about Sickly, but Heartbroken is for when he has to leave a faction to go and serve Cao Cao - historically due to a plot tricking him into thinking his mother, in Cao Cao's territory, was dying and had asked to see him one last time. The colossal debuff means he doesn't normally stick around, but it does remain thereafter and usually keeps him wandering unless the Han Empire snaps him up.
Crowkeeper Jan 25, 2020 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
I don't know about Sickly, but Heartbroken is for when he has to leave a faction to go and serve Cao Cao - historically due to a plot tricking him into thinking his mother, in Cao Cao's territory, was dying and had asked to see him one last time. The colossal debuff means he doesn't normally stick around, but it does remain thereafter and usually keeps him wandering unless the Han Empire snaps him up.
You're thinking of Xu Shu, and that whole thing is only a part of the novel not the records.
RCMidas (Banned) Jan 25, 2020 @ 10:20am 
Oh yeah. So wait...why is Heartbroken showing up for Xun Yu then? That makes no sense. Did somebody really really close to him die or something? It shouldn't, otherwise you'd end up with half of your generals becoming Heartbroken towards the late game as old age claims their friends and loved ones!
Crowkeeper Jan 25, 2020 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Oh yeah. So wait...why is Heartbroken showing up for Xun Yu then? That makes no sense. Did somebody really really close to him die or something? It shouldn't, otherwise you'd end up with half of your generals becoming Heartbroken towards the late game as old age claims their friends and loved ones!
Yeah I'm pretty sure it is the "Wu King" mod. I use the same mod and get the same event. Either it's a mistake by the mod author or there is something we don't know that they do.
RCMidas (Banned) Jan 25, 2020 @ 10:25am 
Xun Yu was certainly modified by the mod, going by a quick workshop search, but why would...oh yeah, mods and scripts are weird. May want to send the modmaker a message about that, OP. They can check it out a lot easier than you get, I'm guessing.
megablue7 Jan 25, 2020 @ 12:01pm 
I gave him the empty pail item. Broke his heart from it I imagine as it happen the next turn after equipping it. This was with the Wu mod.
woodhawk109 Jan 25, 2020 @ 1:05pm 
"Heart broken" trait for Xun Yu happens in my game in one of two ways I think:

1. You chose to kill/banish the emperor instead of serving as his regent
2. You remove him from a post (minister/administrator) - this happened to me a lot but it seems to fire even if you switch his posts
3. He may also get that trait if you declare yourself emperor as well, but I'm not 100% sure on this. I usually hire him after I already was emperor in the game.

At that point, he'll get the "heartbroken" trait and a unique ancillary "Empty Lunch Pail" - it's supposed to mirror what happened in the novel and real life (as well as the 2010 TV show) where Xun Yu opposed Cao Cao's ambitions to become King of Wei instead of serving the emperor as a Han general. In response to this, Cao Cao sent Xun Yu (who was not eating for days in protest) a box of "fruits," but when Xun Yu opened the box, it was empty. He then took a sword and committed suicide. The box was interpreted as basically Cao Cao saying: "There's nothing left for you to do here."

The historical record did not have the lunch box event as far as I know, just that Xun Yu "conveniently" died at the same time Cao Cao became King of Wei and many historians think that there are some foul plays involved since the frictions between the two were reaching boiling points at that time

Both Wu and MTU add the "empty lunch pail" ancillary I think
Last edited by woodhawk109; Jan 25, 2020 @ 1:13pm
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