Unlock unit formations in campaign

[Saulirpa]

I would like to know how to unlock formations like shield wall, turtle, etc. In my campaign with Cao Cao, suddenly in one of my armies (recently recruited) one of my generals had the posibility to use shield wall only with my axe and sword units but in that army I didn't have strategic general (blue). So what I have to do exactly to unlock them for all units? Now in the army of Cao Cao (my first and better army) I have Cao Cao and the other general in good level (level 5 Cao Cao and 4 the others) and I don't have any formations but the IA always use formations of all types. Does somebody know the exactly wat to unlock formations for all types of units?
Thanks so much.

[identifiedasbeingdisrespectful]

Originalmente postado por zgrssd:

Originalmente postado por shde2e:

I don't think so. I've got four different troop types and the strategist is level 8. I'm pretty sure I should at least have unlocked the loose formation by now.

Originalmente postado por Sc2mails:

there's a follower that has it.

I do have loose formation in my Main army on everything. Well, except Trebuchets.
Every single unit i can recruit now and still have to unlock has loose formation.
I have no Follower that grants the foramtion.
I do however have a level 3 Strategist/Academic.

On another army that only has a Sentinel, nothing but the Azure Dragons has any formation. And that one has the unique (Pike & Shoot) formation.

So it needs the proper unit and a Strategist in teh army to unlock, I guess?

probably a reform too.

[zgrssd]

Originalmente postado por Sc2mails:

Originalmente postado por zgrssd:

I do have loose formation in my Main army on everything. Well, except Trebuchets.
Every single unit i can recruit now and still have to unlock has loose formation.
I have no Follower that grants the foramtion.
I do however have a level 3 Strategist/Academic.

On another army that only has a Sentinel, nothing but the Azure Dragons has any formation. And that one has the unique (Pike & Shoot) formation.

So it needs the proper unit and a Strategist in teh army to unlock, I guess?

probably a reform too.

Again:
Those recruit pools are identical.
They are in the same faction.
The only difference between the two armies is the Strategist.

[Valekrin]

There are also set bonuses from Ancillaries. For example, "The Wall" set gives (own army) formations of Shield Wall, Spear Wall and Pike Wall.

[shde2e]

I've never seen a reform with a formation.
As far as I can tell, it's either from strategists or items.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originalmente postado por zgrssd:

Originalmente postado por shde2e:

I don't think so. I've got four different troop types and the strategist is level 8. I'm pretty sure I should at least have unlocked the loose formation by now.

Originalmente postado por Sc2mails:

there's a follower that has it.

I do have loose formation in my Main army on everything. Well, except Trebuchets.
Every single unit i can recruit now and still have to unlock has loose formation.
I have no Follower that grants the foramtion.
I do however have a level 3 Strategist/Academic.

On another army that only has a Sentinel, nothing but the Azure Dragons has any formation. And that one has the unique (Pike & Shoot) formation.

So it needs the proper unit and a Strategist in teh army to unlock, I guess?

So a Strategist with a Academic Sub-class can do formations?

[zgrssd]

Originalmente postado por Darth Alpharius:

Originalmente postado por zgrssd:

I do have loose formation in my Main army on everything. Well, except Trebuchets.
Every single unit i can recruit now and still have to unlock has loose formation.
I have no Follower that grants the foramtion.
I do however have a level 3 Strategist/Academic.

On another army that only has a Sentinel, nothing but the Azure Dragons has any formation. And that one has the unique (Pike & Shoot) formation.

So it needs the proper unit and a Strategist in teh army to unlock, I guess?

So a Strategist with a Academic Sub-class can do formations?

Or maybe the Strategist meerely unlocks the Formation the unit itself brings?

[shde2e]

Yes, as far as I can tell you need to unlock the formation with a strategist (any subclass afaik) or item in the army, but units can only do certain formations depending on their type.

For example, infantry can't form a wedge,cavalry can't form a turtle, archers can't form a shield wall, and so on.
Also, militia unit's can only do a few very basic formations like Loose.

[[H1N1] DALLAS aka THE BAD]

I had the same problem where two of my army had strategists high level and only one could do formations.

That s annoying, a little more clarity about that would be appreciated.

[zgrssd]

Originalmente postado por H1N1 DALLAS:

I had the same problem where two of my army had strategists high level and only one could do formations.

That s annoying, a little more clarity about that would be appreciated.

Could the other do at least loose formation?
If so, that was unlocked by the Strategist.
Without a strategist, you do not even get Loose Formation!

Could the unit not do more then Loose?
If so, that was teh low tier Units.

Units have formations but generally you seem to need a Strategist to unlock them.

[Walk the Void]

i believe its tied to cunning of the strategist considering if i take off all my cunning gear i lose formations. well that and there are quite a few units that cant actually do any formation other then loose