Too many female Faction Leaders

[Spardacus]

First got to say this has been a wonder game compared to the past titles. However the one thing that has been really killing the campaign immersion is the endless amount of Female Faction leaders.

I understand its 2019 and we have to rewrite history and obey the empowered movement...
But really why are nearly all the factions who's faction leader has been killed of are then heired by a female?

I've watched and read Romance of the Three Kingdoms since I was a kid, never once was a female mentioned as a general or a faction leader. Women player a role but not as any faction or warlord.

If you have to be politically correct at least do it like the way Koei has done so with the dynasty warriors series.
They were able to implement women into the game brilliantly and it flows.

Atleast let us have the option to disable female faction leaders. It makes no sense what so ever.

[Cacomistle]

There's exactly 1, and she's one of the most likely factions to be wiped out in the first 20 turns (this happened in half my campaigns).

The reason why so many factions get heired by females is because any faction leader without kids will be heired by the wife. So if it's say 50/50 whether they have a son or daughter if they have a kid, and 50 percent chance of no kid, then 75% chance of a female heir. It's probably more like 25% don't have kids and if there's both a son and daughter the son heirs, so it ends up actually like 50/50.

Usually in my games though its not even that. I often kill the faction leader and heir in the same battle. So only the wife is left.

There aren't too many females. You just killed the males. What do you expect to be left?

[Barney Google]

Nobody is better than anyone else and everyone is amazing at everything. Equality and representation for all, comrade. Don't try to fight it.

[Nebfer]

Originally posted by Breepzz:

Lots of faction leader women, but no ones to married....

I know right?
By mid game one can find multiple factions run by a women, but only find enough wives for like half my sons, if that... Even then half the time their over 35 when my Sons are like 20ish...

[Massive Talent]

virgins

[Yurisatan]

i became dumber just by reading this post
have mercy...

[Meatpopsicle]

It makes the game much more interesting especially with the marriage and heir system. Zheng Jiang for example has a very compelling story that really made we want to play more.

[Bandit17]

I love women. If the OP prefers men so be it. Who am I to judge! Live and let live I say.

[Don Cool]

I usually just think of them as "characters" after a while, don´t give a crap whether they are male or female.

[Toaster Maximus]

Mainly see that happen when the male faction leader dies in battle and they have no child or their child is to young....oddly had a campaign where a certian Sun died at the start and his wife took over till his first born came of age.

[DR GOO]

Originally posted by hollywoodb1:

Originally posted by DR GOO:

This ^^

Get over it or get out of here, no one cares about your inept manliness

Inept manliness. Kind of like brilliant stupidity. Ugly femininity.

Are you going to add value to the discussion or continue to expel nonsensical insults?

Anyway OP, I think Reevestone has the right idea. Yes, an ancient Chinese female general/ruler makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in reality, but as far as the game mechanics are concerned, it is the easiest solution, unless you expect the developers to flesh out EVERYONE'S family tree (no reasonable person would). If there's no heir, the wife inherits. This makes sense to me, even if it's not what would really happen, because I'm playing a video game.

No one with a brain is thinking that women served these roles so widely in ancient China lol.

Gotcha!

Always catch fish, but this one is a bit of a tiddler.

[ApexPredator]

Originally posted by hollywoodb1:

Originally posted by DR GOO:

This ^^

Get over it or get out of here, no one cares about your inept manliness

Inept manliness. Kind of like brilliant stupidity. Ugly femininity.

Are you going to add value to the discussion or continue to expel nonsensical insults?

Anyway OP, I think Reevestone has the right idea. Yes, an ancient Chinese female general/ruler makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in reality, but as far as the game mechanics are concerned, it is the easiest solution, unless you expect the developers to flesh out EVERYONE'S family tree (no reasonable person would). If there's no heir, the wife inherits. This makes sense to me, even if it's not what would really happen, because I'm playing a video game.

No one with a brain is thinking that women served these roles so widely in ancient China lol.

KOEI did on their three kingdoms game. They had all of the family trees implemented in the game. They also had unique portraits for everyone, I mean everyone. We're not asking much as gamers, but at least implement family trees for the Sima family, the Zhuge family, and Ling Tong family (anyone who ever read the book or watched the tv shows would know about Sima Yi's brothers and father, Zhuge Jin is Zhuge Liang's elder brother, and the fact that Ling Cao is Ling Tong's dad). Right now they don't seem to recognize each other and would fight each other till death on the battlefield. This is probably fine for western players who probably don't give a crap, but definitely immersion breaking for us well-versed in the history and story.

[JimmyTheSnake]

Welcome to Clownworld.

[Retro]

Fingers crossed for the workshop fix.

[Eumerin]

Originally posted by Meatpopsicle:

Zheng Jiang for example has a very compelling story that really made we want to play more.

When I read about Zheng Jiang, I thought she'd be a neat, *unique* addition to the game.

As it turned out, she's not very unique.


As others have noted, the problem is that the males tend to die off in battle, leaving the women behind to "run" the faction. Historically, in the instances in which that happened, there would have been two likely outcomes. If the woman was still of child-bearing age, then she probably would have found a suitable man (or had a suitable politically connected man "suggested" to her...) who appeared to have sufficient talent to lead the army, and married him (if he was already married, then his current wife would have been "reduced in rank" to concubine, and the female ruler would have taken the primary wife spot). If she was too old to bear children, then she'd probably be forced into retirement (though a still-living daughter might marry a man who would then become the new public face of the family).

In the unlikely event that the local (male) political leadership was too weak to force her out of office, then chances are that the state in question also didn't have sufficient military strength to hold out against its external enemies.

A female might serve as regent for an underage son (Dowager Empress's often did this, and sometimes assassinated the ruler - replacing him with a younger brother - if he started to show too much independence as he approached his majority). Or that same female might maintain a behind the scenes grip on power that effectively reduced her of age son to a figurehead. But the son was the public face of the state.

And there was no way that a woman would lead troops on the battlefield (no matter what Dynasty Warriors suggests about Wang Yi). Ideally, that should have been something that differentiated Zheng Jiang's faction from the others.

[FanaticPharaoh]

Originally posted by Fewnmeyer:

Originally posted by Jin-:

A lot of brainwashed sheep already in this thread. OP your fight is hopeless, the more we "progress" the more npcs we have shouting pre-programmed stuff from their mind

Yeah. I should "free my mind" and all that ♥♥♥♥ right? Listen to some boring moron on youtube selling ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pills. No way he's full of ♥♥♥♥.

Rise up sheeple! Together we can change the world (by watching youtube, and writing boring sermons on the internet)

And here you are wasting time and spilling your own drivel onto the world. Nah but you REALLY know what the conspiracies are don't you?