Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

Total War: THREE KINGDOMS

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yuzhonglu Jul 21, 2019 @ 12:35am
Gong Du is Pretty Much Impossible
How do you even beat Ma Teng in that first battle? Those Qing Marauders destroy everything.

Also, everyone's at war with you. it's like playing Dong except with no resources at the beginning.
Last edited by yuzhonglu; Jul 21, 2019 @ 1:13am
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GOD TO GO! Jul 21, 2019 @ 1:57am 
Towers, the special JI unit at a choke point at a bridge. Also you could instead reinforce the battle and allow the attackers to run through all the towers. its not impossible use some barriers as well. If you put your defending units in a place where the AI will have to attack them to get to
you, close off both sides and wait them out.
yuzhonglu Jul 21, 2019 @ 3:15am 
The problem is that you're at war with EVERYONE. New idea: get the cheapest units possible and get two full armies immediately. One army ambushes in the north of Wudu and the other goes south.
Uugly Jul 21, 2019 @ 3:36am 
His location should be a lots more easy than He Yi. The guy area is just wide open for all hostile force.
Too Much Salt Jul 21, 2019 @ 3:46am 
If you want an easy strategy. You can just abandon Wudu and march directly to chengdu to the south. Liu Zhang is pretty weak and you can consolidate your power base there. I have done very hard on He Yi and Gong Du, so it is not impossible.

In addition, you want to get healer class hero for your army because the healers have an OP healing spell. You can pretty much take on 2 full stack armies with any 1 Yellow turban army with at least a healer.
yuzhonglu Jul 21, 2019 @ 6:36am 
Sky Heralds + Peasant Archers. Cheap and effective, especially in garrisons.

Killed Lu Bu's army in a heroic victory with that composition.
yuzhonglu Jul 21, 2019 @ 6:42am 
Guerilla encampents are also kinda broken once you get enough of them.
Lightning Jul 21, 2019 @ 8:55am 
Lol..yet my Gong Du campaign had Ma Teng not only beaten, but captured and swiftly executed on turn 1 XD
Nero Jul 21, 2019 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Too Much Salt:
If you want an easy strategy. You can just abandon Wudu and march directly to chengdu to the south. Liu Zhang is pretty weak and you can consolidate your power base there. I have done very hard on He Yi and Gong Du, so it is not impossible.

In addition, you want to get healer class hero for your army because the healers have an OP healing spell. You can pretty much take on 2 full stack armies with any 1 Yellow turban army with at least a healer.

Agree and I recommend it as well.

You could hold Wudu however as a gate to your realm. Get a garrision quickly and maybe place an ambush.

When you take Chengdu and Ba and so on the campaign becomes easy.
Last edited by Nero; Jul 21, 2019 @ 9:34am
VoiD Jul 21, 2019 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by yuzhonglu:
The problem is that you're at war with EVERYONE. New idea: get the cheapest units possible and get two full armies immediately. One army ambushes in the north of Wudu and the other goes south.
Never played him, did He Yi instead, he starts at war with everyone as well and that's exactly how I played till the endgame, always at the army limit cap with full armies full of ♥♥♥♥ units, the cheapest of their kind, 40 maintenance is OP.

Turbans can buff their morale so high that it doesn't matter anyway, my naked peasants could outlast proper warriors every time, and their general abilities and buff stacking are ridiculous.
Last edited by VoiD; Jul 21, 2019 @ 10:09am
Nero Jul 21, 2019 @ 10:11am 
He Yi can be easier than Gong Du. Just abandon your settlements and set sail to Chengdu.
Windy Jul 21, 2019 @ 10:53am 
Huh, i've played 2 gong du campaigns already and both were easy af. Ma teng is pretty easy, just use the town, then capture his territories and push up north towards han sui. Dong zhou is super lazy and mostly won't bother you early on, Zhang lu (or whatever his name is) isn't a big threat since he can't amass the income to fund an army, after han sui, you're free to just steamroll through dong zhous lands. IF you do it right, then you will have a level 7 gong du by the time you fight dong zhou
Just wait till you play the Huang Shao(sp?) dude.
Hope you like getting work on by Yuan Shao, Kong Rong, Liu Bei defense force, and Cao Cao
Last edited by The Mailman Thinks I Am Gay; Jul 21, 2019 @ 11:04am
yuzhonglu Jul 21, 2019 @ 1:36pm 
I'm getting attacked by Han Sui, Dong Zhou and Ma Teng simultaneously. I've executed Ma Teng on turn 2, beat Lu Bu's army, beat Ma Chao's army, beat Ma Chao's retainers armies (3 of them), beat 2 other Dong Zhou armies, and beat at least 2 of Han Sui's army.

It's impressive what you can do with unbreakable soldiers, peasant bowman, extra healing, and a fortified silk road encampment. i think I've won 5 heroic victories already.

Needless to say I'm not making much progress in the north, but I have taken over chengdu with my main army. Turn 30.

Its not too bad. I'm using their armies as a source of income.

if I'm playing Huang Shao, I'm abandoning my starting area and traveling south.
Last edited by yuzhonglu; Jul 21, 2019 @ 1:40pm
Gong Du starts in an ideal position surrounded by mountains, which can greatly reduce cavalry efficiency and improve ambush chances.
You maybe also want to use entrenched position, or stay in a city or anything providing walls or tower, to deal with him. At some point he will be busy dealing with other factions posing a greater diplomatic and strategic threat.
I managed to finish a campaign in very hard with him, and I can assure you that you just have to survive the first turns to get started :)
Degenerate Trap Jul 22, 2019 @ 3:50am 
I just finished my play through with Gongdu and he has one of the easiest start in the whole game.

First move should be take the yerrow turban town, then let Ma Teng attack you, win and execute him if you catch him. Then move your army up and kill him while he is weak.

Dong Dong should be very busy else where so dont worry about him yet.

2nd Recruit an army and build it up slowly because Zhang Lu will sneak you a big one.

3rd after you finish with Ma Teng, Zhang Lu should show up, defeat him. Then come and kill him. Make Han Zhong as your last line of defense against whatever might come (nothing came in my game) Move the army from Han Zhong south to take free Han cities or kill Liu Zhang early.

4th by now your army should be fighting and winning against Han Xin, so build a 3rd army because Dong Dong will come for you although at this point he is prob dead...so you get to deal with Lu Bu instead, deny duel and gangbang him because he always charge head first at you.

5th this is the hardest part of the game. Your army will have to run around in the North fighting Dong Waifu while making peace, then war then peace then war until you take control of the north and kill the emperor. If you can kill him early, sure, I can't. but I did killed him early enough to break the game. If you do it right, the moment you kill the emperor, you should have half the north controlled and Chengdu is your most profitable city as I had it around 3k industrial income, and 5k end game.

Tips: as gongdu, invest heavily in farms then industrial because Chang'an is an imperial city at start. Industry because the yellow turban is so damn good at bringing China an early industrialisation, and Gong Gong starts in a heavy mining land.
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