Zhang Fei and Liu Bei

[Omrets]

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing Zhang Fei and Liu Bei falling out with each other very early. I saw that on the patch notes Zhang Fei is no longer supposed to betray Liu Bei anymore. What does that mean? They are still disharmonious when working together even in the new beta client. Any help is appreciated!

[PolecatEZ]

Liu Bei can pick up traits that make them incompatible, but this is only a minor hit to satisfaction.

More likely, he fails to expand fast enough to get enough court positions to keep all his special snowflakes happy. If he also fails to take the temple (+10 satisfaction), this can lead to a lot of quitters from his team.

[Nylan]

A lot of the disharmony people see is the trait system at work. For example three generals start off with green checks to eachother, they like eachothers traits. Now one gets wounded and loses an eye, it so happens they all dislike disfigurement due to a trait, so now the other two show a red X tot he guy with one eye. Simply means they dislike a trait, not that they are rivals and will reduce happiness when in the same army, commandery or faction.

For the most part all you need to watch for is rivalry, kill someones family member and they hate you and anyone on your side who was present in that battle, and perhaps even develop a rivalry with your entire faction. Little red X here and there in your armies isn't the end of the world, provided those armies actually win battles and gain trust and relations with eachother.