Yellow Turban unit avalaibility fix/question

[Nobby St-Nobs]

As many probably have caught by now, there's some weirdness on what unit each Yellow Turban can recruit, which makes it really weird

The 2 obvious examples are Master Archers ( Huang Shao special units) only being avalaible to recruit on Scholars (Yellow/Purple) and not on Veterans (Green/Blue)
Meanwhile, Nobleman Cavalry (Yellow) can't be hired on Scholars but ARE avalaible to Veterans

It kinda ruins some hero building. My veteran is the only one that can have trebuchet, but he's also handling cavalry. Meanwhile, i want master archers, but the best purple infantry is also locked to scholars, so again i would need to double dip...

I dunno if there is a chance of changing some things around or a mod can be made for this, it's just very grating compared to the general straightforwardness of Han faction

[Rogue]

It's strictly based on the heaven, land and people concept.... Research the units you want for the different type, veteran, scholar and healer. Pretty obvious since the reforms on each branch affects the "satisfaction" of the type of officer you have.

DLC gives 3 heroes which are also based on each type and each can build unique building to its branch. House of compassion (He Yi the healer), Concealed fort (Gong Du the veteran) or Divine garden (Huang Shao the scholar)...

Just say that the Yellow Turban DLC is just not a reskin...Its own hierachy (no marriage, etc), reform tree and diplomacy.

[Nobby St-Nobs]

But then the color thing doesn't fit. at all.

[Wraith]

Yellow turban don't use the color thing. They have their own stuff that why they can't even equip armor of the respective color.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Nobby St-Nobs:

But then the color thing doesn't fit. at all.

The system is completely different.. Color doesn't matter. You don't even need to research in order, and directly research based on your enlightenment level.

[BigRockWall]

Originally posted by Nobby St-Nobs:

As many probably have caught by now, there's some weirdness on what unit each Yellow Turban can recruit, which makes it really weird

The 2 obvious examples are Master Archers ( Huang Shao special units) only being avalaible to recruit on Scholars (Yellow/Purple) and not on Veterans (Green/Blue)
Meanwhile, Nobleman Cavalry (Yellow) can't be hired on Scholars but ARE avalaible to Veterans

It kinda ruins some hero building. My veteran is the only one that can have trebuchet, but he's also handling cavalry. Meanwhile, i want master archers, but the best purple infantry is also locked to scholars, so again i would need to double dip...

I dunno if there is a chance of changing some things around or a mod can be made for this, it's just very grating compared to the general straightforwardness of Han faction

Monk with 6 youxia. They are the best infantry anyway. Less damage than scholar warriors, much more staying power.

Veteran with 2 trebs and 4 noble cav. All you need is flaming shot, the rest of his skills can buff the cav

Scholar with 6 archery masters. They have plenty of ammo even without speccing the scholar for a cunning build

This is the most effective stack I've used to date amongst all factions

[shde2e]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Originally posted by Nobby St-Nobs:

But then the color thing doesn't fit. at all.

The system is completely different.. Color doesn't matter. You don't even need to research in order, and directly research based on your enlightenment level.

Pretty much. For some reason the Yellow Turbans throw the colour system completely out of the window, but still assigns every hero and unit a colour anyway.
Which throws everyone off, since nobody expects this subset of factions to suddenly use a completely different and unexplained system without so much as a headsup.

[NoDeSlip]

Funny to say, they can actually complete the entire reforms faster than normal factions when enough research buildings are built. They are an interesting hybrid faction.