Do you banish Cao Song as Cao Cao?

[Numenor]

Do any of you guys just banish Cao Song at the start of the game? He is scripted to always die after a few turns so there is no point in paying for his salary. Not to mention not only do you save money by banishing him / releasing him from your service, you get basically a free 800 more gold by doing so.

[Ritterkreuz]

but he is your father.

Assuming he doesn't serve any worthy purpose in the early part of the game, it is actually good to banish him to get 800 gold more in the treasury.

[Numenor]

Originally posted by Megumin:

but he is your father.

I mean you could just release him from your service. Point is he always dies so I doubt anyone hires him, so why waste the like 500 or so gold to keep him in your court. Not to mention lose out on another 800 gold. That is about 1300 gold you can spend on building an army or upgrades.

[Winter]

Originally posted by Megumin:

but he is your father.

[LowFi]

You can get a free female general before Song get`s murdered.

[Numenor]

Originally posted by ButtCheese:

You can get a free female general before Song get`s murdered.

Not anymore, since they make marriages cost 2000 gold?

[BLEACH@DARKNE$$]EST]

marry him to the guy's daughter to the north, the minor faction for some barter leverage. then when he dies, marry her to cao ren (they're super compatible)

ive even have cao song get her pregnant before he dies, then after having married her to cao ren, she gives birth to cao ren's brother who will raise as his own child. AHHH ANCIENT TIMES!

[Numenor]

Originally posted by SPIDICULOUS:

marry him to the guy's daughter to the north, the minor faction for some barter leverage. then when he dies, marry her to cao ren (they're super compatible)

ive even have cao song get her pregnant before he dies, then after having married her to cao ren, she gives birth to cao ren's brother who will raise as his own child. AHHH ANCIENT TIMES!

Wait... how did you get her to marry Cao Ren... don't people get the "This character is a distant relative" trait that prevents you from having family member marry another family member's spouse or is that only when you divorce them?

Also Cao Ren is Cao Cao cousin isn't he... not his brother... So he isn't raising his own brother because Cao Song is not Cao Ren's father.

[LowFi]

Liu Dai will marry off Liu Huimin for 900gold at first turn, my bets is that you can get it cheeper if u get the farm first, then use your tradeagreement, then make the offer this way is the cheepest way at first turn i belive. And the more might you haw the less you need to pay, end result beeing Liu Dai paying you for the offer.

[BLEACH@DARKNE$$]EST]

Originally posted by Numenor:

Originally posted by SPIDICULOUS:

marry him to the guy's daughter to the north, the minor faction for some barter leverage. then when he dies, marry her to cao ren (they're super compatible)

ive even have cao song get her pregnant before he dies, then after having married her to cao ren, she gives birth to cao ren's brother who will raise as his own child. AHHH ANCIENT TIMES!

Wait... how did you get her to marry Cao Ren... don't people get the "This character is a distant relative" trait that prevents you from having family member marry another family member's spouse or is that only when you divorce them?

Also Cao Ren is Cao Cao cousin isn't he... not his brother... So he isn't raising his own brother because Cao Song is not Cao Ren's father.

might be only when you divorce them? this is all before recent patch. but you offer marriage with cao song to the minor noble, then cao song dies, and again last i checked she is re-eligible for marriage. might have something to do with cao song is joining their family -- she isn't joining yours. you offer cao song, then receive her to join yours wedding cao ren.

as far as the brother/cousin thing -- all i know is (and this might of been a glitch?) it listed a child (maybe not as brother but as a cousin? i mean to say the baby was in the same tier as cao cao, cao ren, and [child name] AND also as cao ren's child (which i assumed denoted it was the child of the woman, not cao ren's seed. ewww did i just say seed!?)

bug or not i imagine this is super rare. and if it isnt a bug, kudos to CA for making that a part of the mechanics. ie impregnation isnt triggering an event (though still filed in the game) vrs. birth being what triggers the event.

[LowFi]

Originally posted by ButtCheese:

Liu Dai will marry off Liu Huimin for 900gold at first turn, my bets is that you can get it cheeper if u get the farm first, then use your tradeagreement, then make the offer this way is the cheepest way at first turn i belive. And the more might you haw the less you need to pay, end result beeing Liu Dai paying you for the offer.

Had to test this, infact you will get a better offer if you do it without the farm at first turn.

[BLEACH@DARKNE$$]EST]

wish i would of taken a screenshot, thought about it too. just never thought it would come up... grrr... and here we are!

[Numenor]

Originally posted by SPIDICULOUS:

as far as the brother/cousin thing -- all i know is (and this might of been a glitch?) it listed a child (maybe not as brother but as a cousin? i mean to say the baby was in the same tier as cao cao, cao ren, and [child name] AND also as cao ren's child (which i assumed denoted it was the child of the woman, not cao ren's seed. ewww did i just say seed!?)

Well of course the baby would be on the same tier as Cao Cao, and Cao Ren. Because Cao Song is Cao Cao's father, which makes the baby Cao Cao's half sibling. And Cao Ren's cousin just like Cao Cao.

[Xepep]

If you want to save money, you can sell him as a sex slave marry him to Liu Dai's daughter. You not only stop paying him salary, but also gain something, for AI will eagerly pay, as it doesn't know Cao Song is going to die anyway.

[Numenor]

Originally posted by Xepep:

If you want to save money, you can sell him as a sex slave marry him to Liu Dai's daughter. You not only stop paying him salary, but also gain something, for AI will eagerly pay, as it doesn't know Cao Song is going to die anyway.

Lol pimping out your 50 something year old father to a 18 year old girl related to the royal family... sounds like he would have pretty good life before he died.

[BLEACH@DARKNE$$]EST]

Originally posted by Numenor:

Originally posted by SPIDICULOUS:

as far as the brother/cousin thing -- all i know is (and this might of been a glitch?) it listed a child (maybe not as brother but as a cousin? i mean to say the baby was in the same tier as cao cao, cao ren, and [child name] AND also as cao ren's child (which i assumed denoted it was the child of the woman, not cao ren's seed. ewww did i just say seed!?)

Well of course the baby would be on the same tier as Cao Cao, and Cao Ren. Because Cao Song is Cao Cao's father, which makes the baby Cao Cao's half sibling. And Cao Ren's cousin just like Cao Cao.

im saying its interesting because in my case i had cao ren marry cao song's widow who gave birth to the child. im saying it listed the baby as cao ren's cousin AND son (as the child was liu dai's, now remarried to cao ren -- who was the new "father") it just looked weird and i thought it funny how accurate these family trees are.