Lu Bu weak at duels?

[myperfectvictory]

Witnessed a full health level 7 Lu Bu struggle against a level 2 commander. Even with a rage health boost, he still lost the duel. Anyone seen similar? Is this known with him?

[Pumis]

After reading some of these forums. It appears that they give low level generals true damage bonus against high level characters. Pretty BS if someone asks me.
This makes sentinels only viable late game general for dueling. Since they can dodge those true damage hits.

[Okita Asada]

It's because the weaker commander receives a lot of bonuses. It's really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and doesn't make any sense at all. If the guy is too weak, he shouldn't accept the duel. End of the story.

[Pumis]

Originally posted by mike:

Originally posted by Pumis:

After reading some of these forums. It appears that they give low level generals true damage bonus against high level characters. Pretty BS if someone asks me.
This makes sentinels only viable late game general for dueling. Since they can dodge those true damage hits.

Makes sense. It was odd how the duel prediction showed me as the clear winner, but the outcome was much different than expected.

Yeah I had same problem in my current legendary run as Sun jian... All of my good generals keep getting destroyed by some newbies. So I stopped doing dueling and put on auto-decline instead. Better to just snipe their generals by doing 3v1.

No clue who was behind of that design choice, makes game unfun and dueling pointless.
Better solution for late game highly leveled generals would've been just have buildings/techtree or resources that increase newly recruited general's levels.

[Imnuktam]

If they are supposed to lose handidly they should just decline instead of be given buffs to even it out.

Do you guys micro any of your duels with them? I have close duels but always end up winning the ones i should. I do use other general buffs / debuffs when possible and their direct damage abilities.

[Pumis]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

If they are supposed to lose handidly they should just decline instead of be given buffs to even it out.

Do you guys micro any of your duels with them? I have close duels but always end up winning the ones i should. I do use other general buffs / debuffs when possible and their direct damage abilities.

I use all the abilities. Heck I even bring my strategist to give them -100% evasion and -100% armor debuff on the enemy duelist. But those nobody generals just keep on smacking legendary badass dudes who have insane gear on them. So why bother to duel? Should just gang up on them and one shot them through real battle.

[Seisan9]

Wait, lower level generals get buffs in duels? Yeah, dueling is pointless then. Better to just have generals duke it out in the actual battle.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Pumis:

Originally posted by mike:

Makes sense. It was odd how the duel prediction showed me as the clear winner, but the outcome was much different than expected.

Yeah I had same problem in my current legendary run as Sun jian... All of my good generals keep getting destroyed by some newbies. So I stopped doing dueling and put on auto-decline instead. Better to just snipe their generals by doing 3v1.

No clue who was behind of that design choice, makes game unfun and dueling pointless.
Better solution for late game highly leveled generals would've been just have buildings/techtree or resources that increase newly recruited general's levels.

That is completely your fault for playing on Legendary.

EVERYTHING on the AI side gets buffs when playing on Legendary. The AI doesn't get smarter it just cheats more. When you select Legendary instead of Hard then you chose that you want to play against cheaters so you can't complain about the cheating.

When I play on hard my heroes perform as they should in duels.

[snapisonfire]

It is because of hero class. Lubu is Vanguard which is good at killing a lot of soldiers and breaking them. but weak against other heroes. If they have to give Lubu Champion class, it will be wrong on the other side too because Lubu is supposed to be good at everything. killing both heroes and non-heroes. May be they should have one more heros class just for lubu. Champion-Vanguard or something silmilar.

[echoes222]

champions > vanguards in the duels, like the guy above said.

[Gamer de esquerda]

Guan Yu is actually the best I've seen at duels, I've seen him winning a duel in about 10 seconds, without any buff to him or debuffs to the opponent

[Virthuss (法國人在台灣)]

Vanguards are not really good at duels, but seeing AI CaoCao destroying all my generals make me wonder about how good the duel mechanics are...
Anyways, the best duelists are the yellow turbans generals (Huang Shao and Gong Du especially ) and some sentinels like Xu Huang

[Pumis]

Originally posted by WitchingSnake:

Originally posted by Pumis:

Yeah I had same problem in my current legendary run as Sun jian... All of my good generals keep getting destroyed by some newbies. So I stopped doing dueling and put on auto-decline instead. Better to just snipe their generals by doing 3v1.

No clue who was behind of that design choice, makes game unfun and dueling pointless.
Better solution for late game highly leveled generals would've been just have buildings/techtree or resources that increase newly recruited general's levels.

That is completely your fault for playing on Legendary.

EVERYTHING on the AI side gets buffs when playing on Legendary. The AI doesn't get smarter it just cheats more. When you select Legendary instead of Hard then you chose that you want to play against cheaters so you can't complain about the cheating.

When I play on hard my heroes perform as they should in duels.

I have heard reports of this happening on normal too.
Also I didn't have issues with dueling low level generals in the early game on legendary. I'm well aware that A.I get's buffs on higher difficulties, I'm not a new TW player.
You can see same results on other player's playthroughs if you watch on youtube.

[Pumis]

Originally posted by Craque Neto:

Guan Yu is actually the best I've seen at duels, I've seen him winning a duel in about 10 seconds, without any buff to him or debuffs to the opponent

Seen Guan Yu One shotted by some no named general with no levels.

[Gamer de esquerda]

Originally posted by Pumis:

Originally posted by Craque Neto:

Guan Yu is actually the best I've seen at duels, I've seen him winning a duel in about 10 seconds, without any buff to him or debuffs to the opponent

Seen Guan Yu One shotted by some no named general with no levels.

You're playing it wrong then, because my generals always win duels. Sometimes 2 on the same battle.

[UnfriendlyFire]

Some sentinels and heroes keep buffing themselves with abilities that grant ridiculous amounts of melee evasion making them literally invincible in duels because there is no minimum percentage hit chance in unmodded gameplay. I have seen commanders and sentinels get 250% melee evasion. I found it ridiculous and nerfed the evasion boosting skills and set a minimum of 1% hit chance.