Stop AI from releasing Sima Yi

[Coocoodas]

I'm getting Sima Yi in almost every single game and that's dumb..

[MOMO & YUNA]

From what I understand, Sima Yi has -108 (minus 108) satisfaction, that's why the AI is unable to keep him. I got him once and I could not keep him either. I even married my daughter to that X@## and he left her. I swore to kill him. I realized later that I need to prepare a minister position for him.

And that's realistic bacuse Sima Yi was the one who grabbed the emperor seat at the end. All the 3 lords fought for nothing. Sima Yi just came snatching the throne.

[OZZO]

just take down one of your ministers and get him up. Same with Lu Bu and other grudged superheroes.

[Kitten Food]

Originally posted by OZZO:

just take down one of your ministers and get him up. Same with Lu Bu and other grudged superheroes.

This works for the player, the issue is the AI is not scripted to be this smart, so they lose characters that should (at least story wise) be in that faction. Certain characters should have traits that prevent this. I like sandboxing, but I also like some lore immersion as well.

[StevoTheOutlaw]

When he joins Cao Cao he should start with really high satisfaction and it should decrease at a faster rate, and the more power he has, the harder it should become to keep him happy.

I haven't played a campaign with a strong Cao Cao yet, but it would be cool if he splintered off into a civil war and formed the Jin.

[Vin362]

I use to suspect Sima Yi was a spy until I saw in my Sun Jian campaign Zhuge Liang took over a minor faction as leader and he’s supposed to be very loyal to Liu Bei, the weird part is Liu Bei’s faction did survive long enough to not only recruit Zhuge Liang but also formed Duchy of Shu-Han.

So I am not so sure what is with the legendary generals showing up in my court so often I even saw Xiahou Yuan as Liu Biao.

[Harukage]

Originally posted by MOMO & YUNA:

And that's realistic bacuse Sima Yi was the one who grabbed the emperor seat at the end. All the 3 lords fought for nothing. Sima Yi just came snatching the throne.

Sima Yi had no done anything of a sort. He served Cao Cao and 3 of Wei emperors faithfully, right until the last emperor basically lost his power to one of his of own generals. For a time Sima Yi was a co-regent with that same general - Cao Shuang, but eventially Sima family was driven of from power, and the general completely usurped the throne.
That is to say Sima Yi was not the most influential politician in Wei dynasty for nothing for a lot of time and Sima family held a lot of wealth, so they were able to defeat the usurper and founded Jin dynasty. The last Wei emperor was actualy alive and well in the end, and also granted a title of duke and good territory in Jin Empire.

[MOMO & YUNA]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Originally posted by MOMO & YUNA:

And that's realistic bacuse Sima Yi was the one who grabbed the emperor seat at the end. All the 3 lords fought for nothing. Sima Yi just came snatching the throne.

Sima Yi had no done anything of a sort. He served Cao Cao and 3 of Wei emperors faithfully, right until the last emperor basically lost his power to one of his of own generals. For a time Sima Yi was a co-regent with that same general - Cao Shuang, but eventially Sima family was driven of from power, and the general completely usurped the throne.
That is to say Sima Yi was not the most influential politician in Wei dynasty for nothing for a lot of time and Sima family held a lot of wealth, so they were able to defeat the usurper and founded Jin dynasty. The last Wei emperor was actualy alive and well in the end, and also granted a title of duke and good territory in Jin Empire.

Hahahaha, He knew exactly that this would happen, that's why he came to Cao Cao in the first place. He already predicted the future. He was the smartest man in China, so he was not just dragged into the story, but he knew the story in advance. His brain/wisdom surpassed all.

Even you did not notice. I suggest that you watch/read the story again.

[Quaade]

Originally posted by MOMO & YUNA:

Originally posted by Harukage:

Sima Yi had no done anything of a sort. He served Cao Cao and 3 of Wei emperors faithfully, right until the last emperor basically lost his power to one of his of own generals. For a time Sima Yi was a co-regent with that same general - Cao Shuang, but eventially Sima family was driven of from power, and the general completely usurped the throne.
That is to say Sima Yi was not the most influential politician in Wei dynasty for nothing for a lot of time and Sima family held a lot of wealth, so they were able to defeat the usurper and founded Jin dynasty. The last Wei emperor was actualy alive and well in the end, and also granted a title of duke and good territory in Jin Empire.

Hahahaha, He knew exactly that this would happen, that's why he came to Cao Cao in the first place. He already predicted the future. He was the smartest man in China, so he was not just dragged into the story, but he knew the story in advance. His brain/wisdom surpassed all.

Even you did not notice. I suggest that you watch/read the story again.

How do you know he knew? From a novelle written by a man who didn't know his intention either?
You sir, can't be trusted with literature

[MOMO & YUNA]

Originally posted by Quaade:

Originally posted by MOMO & YUNA:

Hahahaha, He knew exactly that this would happen, that's why he came to Cao Cao in the first place. He already predicted the future. He was the smartest man in China, so he was not just dragged into the story, but he knew the story in advance. His brain/wisdom surpassed all.

Even you did not notice. I suggest that you watch/read the story again.

How do you know he knew? From a novelle written by a man who didn't know his intention either?
You sir, can't be trusted with literature

Do you think every person has the same level of wisdom/comprehension/perception? Just because someone is unable to perceive and you think that the thing does not exist? People have different level of wisdom/comprehension/perception.

For example, students attending the same class, some of them gain 80-100% knowledge from that class, while some of them gain less than 50% of what taught in the class.

I hope you understand it now.

[Jerroser]

Gameplay wise I do agree that he is a little too difficult to keep under control and in general the satisfaction penalty for a high level character no holding a high court position can get a little too steep. Especially when there are no positions available for them to take.

The interesting thing is actually that in real life Sima Yi was originally so uninterested in pursuing a political career that Cao Cao had to literally send troops to force him in to serving at court.

Although I'm not sure about his motivations historically, a lot of versions of seen of he events that led to him staging a coup and taking over Wei paint it in a much more sympathetic light. Where the ruling Cao family had become so disstrustful of him due to their own paranoia that he was effectively forced to take over or they would have eventually found an excuse to kills him.