On Offering & Receiving Marriage Proposals

[BananaDealer]

Ok, so I've been trying to nab Sun Ren for the Wu's for awhile now. Every once and awhile, they'll approach me with some dumb offer of her marrying some random officer in my court (and them joining Wu), which means she's available to be married. BUT when I go into diplomacy with them (or any other faction for that matter), the options to Offer/Receive Marriage are unavailable. And I have plenty of viable candidates (including two direct family members, one of which - my hair).
So what the hell? Is this just some weird bug, or am I not getting something?

[RCMidas]

If they are approaching you with an offer, it means it is on their turn. So if you decline it, they'll make it to someone else before you get to play again. As Sun Ren comes of age in autumn 207 (or is it winter 207?), you'll need to have someone ready to marry her and enter diplomacy with Wu before they marry her off to someone else as soon as she comes on age on their turn.

This does mean a certain amount of luck is required - ensuring that there are not too many other peaceable factions left that Sun Jian can talk to and are interested in marrying into his royal line is always a good way of skewing those odds. And of course, there is always the possibility that Sun Ren is simply married off immediately to another Wu officer with no chance to enter diplomacy at all.

[BananaDealer]

Originally posted by RCMidas:

If they are approaching you with an offer, it means it is on their turn. So if you decline it, they'll make it to someone else before you get to play again. As Sun Ren comes of age in autumn 207 (or is it winter 207?), you'll need to have someone ready to marry her and enter diplomacy with Wu before they marry her off to someone else as soon as she comes on age on their turn.

This does mean a certain amount of luck is required - ensuring that there are not too many other peaceable factions left that Sun Jian can talk to and are interested in marrying into his royal line is always a good way of skewing those odds. And of course, there is always the possibility that Sun Ren is simply married off immediately to another Wu officer with no chance to enter diplomacy at all.

That's been a recurring thing for the past 20-30 turns, every other turn - Wu comes offering marriage...

[RCMidas]

...I don't understand how that is working then.

If they've been offering Sun Ren for marriage for all of their turns, then you should definitely be able to offer it back to them with a different deal on your turn. But since no other faction is able to Offer/Receive Marriage when you initiate it either, it does sound like a bug.

[shde2e]

Might be a bug. A bunch of people have been complaining about being unable to marry Sun Ren for some reason. It wouldn't be the first character specific bug in the game either.

[Truetobi91]

You should try to re-negotiate the deal WHILE they are offering it to you. When you receive their offer go for "negotiate" (or whatever it is in english). There you remove the part of them asking for marriage and check if you can ask to marry her into your faction instead afterwards. If that does not work it is 100% a bug.

[BananaDealer]

Originally posted by Truetobi91:

You should try to re-negotiate the deal WHILE they are offering it to you. When you receive their offer go for "negotiate" (or whatever it is in english). There you remove the part of them asking for marriage and check if you can ask to marry her into your faction instead afterwards. If that does not work it is 100% a bug.

I have, still unavailable. I really wish they would add the option to edit marriage proposals (substitute one character for another)...

[Path]

She's not related to your family, is she? The game treats the entire extended family the same way, e.g., if you marry Sun Ce to your daughter and have him join your faction, you can't marry your son to Sun Ren, because she's family now.

There might be another reason you're having this problem, but I figure that was why I wasn't able to marry Sun Quan into my faction. Then again, that might've been because I made Ce my heir, but who knows...

[BananaDealer]

Originally posted by Path:

She's not related to your family, is she? The game treats the entire extended family the same way, e.g., if you marry Sun Ce to your daughter and have him join your faction, you can't marry your son to Sun Ren, because she's family now.

There might be another reason you're having this problem, but I figure that was why I wasn't able to marry Sun Quan into my faction. Then again, that might've been because I made Ce my heir, but who knows...

Shouldn't be... I'm playing as Lui Bei, and he was actually married to Sun Ren...

[D. Edwards]

So Sun Ce or Sun Quan or any other Wu member not married to any of your family members?

[BananaDealer]

Originally posted by D. Edwards:

So Sun Ce or Sun Quan or any other Wu member not married to any of your family members?

No, they are not.

[Stace McGate]

Trying to nab Ma Chao or Sun Ren has been impossible, despite knowing the exact date they become eligible, no option for marriage appears. It be helpful if the player received notifications of marriage between other factions, not just to know who is no longer available but to know who is forming diplomatic ties.

[D. Edwards]

I have not had any issues I am playing as Ma Teng and I already marriage Ma Chao to another wife, but I managed to adopt Zhao Yun and marry him to Sun Ren on year 207 Autumn

[BastardSword]

It seems like a bug to me. When I go into the trade and marriage diplomacy bar, the option to marry another faction's person is never ever available. Seems like only AI factions are able to approach the player about marriages.