Zheng Jiang is the richest

[VoiD]

FYI tribute is ridiculous.

So, here I was, struggling to get a decent income, until I got a tributary deal with Cao Cao, suddenly I went from like 1k inscome to 13k, and he wasn't even that big, may have had less than 10 cities/towns...

Fastforward a little bit and now I have 20k inscome, 40k of which comes from tributaries, fielding over 10 elite armies filled with top tier somethingDragon troops on every front mixed with some royal palace troops, it's pretty much unlimited money, I sometimes even throw something like 40k at the AI's face to make them accept deals with me even though they are under -100 relations for war crimes or some BS like that, on legendary.

Seriously, it's nutts, just wanted to share, her early game might be one of the hardest, but her late game, if you get some tributaries going and specially if you reach max infamy is just crazy.

Sad part is that enemies can still vassalize your tributaries, so it's a weird relation, for example: Once the 3 kingdoms were formed Wu vassalized Cao Cao, one of my tributaries, pulling him out of my alliance, but he's still my trubutary, and also their vassal, kind of a wtf moment there.

[Di]

what difficulty do you play on

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Di:

what difficulty do you play on

Legendary

[Di]

damn

[This PC]

I've gotten sort of the same results with Gongsun Zan, I've captured the 3 northern horse pastures and suddenly my cavalry cost 0, so I could field 10 cav armies and still rack in 25k+ income per turn, up to a point where I had well over 1mil. It's become my de-facto strategy, people really underestimate the lesser lords. I don't play on leg but it still feels way overpowered every time. I'm thinking of moving up the diff now that I've established a solid strat.

[Salty Nobody]

Yeah on my own Legendary run with her at one point or another I had the other two Kingdoms as tributaries. Now THAT was income.

Be careful doing this though. One kingdom took this as an opportunity to eat the other one and then I had one giant kingdom to deal with... Luckily the massive food shortage this caused them let me use my equally massive food surplus to good effect...

[Ogre Beautiful]

How do you get people to accept tribute? To me they always say never :(

[Ogre Beautiful]

Do I need to utterly crush them first?

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Ogre Beautiful:

Do I need to utterly crush them first?

That, or be a lot stronger, ot be very liked by them, or a mix of them all, never managed when I was just starting.

[ACS36]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by Ogre Beautiful:

Do I need to utterly crush them first?

That, or be a lot stronger, ot be very liked by them, or a mix of them all, never managed when I was just starting.

Honestly I don't believe that's how it works. I've been at war with Cao Cao many times in this game where my military power is rated way higher than his. I've crushed his armies. I've taken most of his land and he has a -75 opinion on peace.

I don't see how the AI would ever accept paying tribute in this game. The player would never accept paying tribute. Why should the AI?

I'm pretty sure the coded personalities for the factions in the game way heavily into their willingness to accept certain types of deals. Way more so than their military strength. IT's probably a combination, but at the end of the day it ends up feeling very random and rather arbitrary. But once you figure out personalities of the AI you can almost always predict what type of deal they'll accept.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by ACS36:

Originally posted by VoiD:

That, or be a lot stronger, ot be very liked by them, or a mix of them all, never managed when I was just starting.

Honestly I don't believe that's how it works. I've been at war with Cao Cao many times in this game where my military power is rated way higher than his. I've crushed his armies. I've taken most of his land and he has a -75 opinion on peace.

I don't see how the AI would ever accept paying tribute in this game. The player would never accept paying tribute. Why should the AI?

I'm pretty sure the coded personalities for the factions in the game way heavily into their willingness to accept certain types of deals. Way more so than their military strength. IT's probably a combination, but at the end of the day it ends up feeling very random and rather arbitrary. But once you figure out personalities of the AI you can almost always predict what type of deal they'll accept.

Dunno, nearing the end even the kingdom of Wu and Chu and Shu-Han were willing to pay for tribute and the overall score was positive.

Tbh it was quite a big hit on the last turn when I had to attack one of the kingdom tributaries, had nearly 60k income from tribute, also, I don't know if they stack for ever, but I was also spamming those +tribute income buildings whenever I could.

[ChaosKhan]

Originally posted by jdtuggey:

I've gotten sort of the same results with Gongsun Zan, I've captured the 3 northern horse pastures and suddenly my cavalry cost 0, so I could field 10 cav armies and still rack in 25k+ income per turn, up to a point where I had well over 1mil. It's become my de-facto strategy, people really underestimate the lesser lords. I don't play on leg but it still feels way overpowered every time. I'm thinking of moving up the diff now that I've established a solid strat.

Screenshot plz.

[TDBD-SEBN]

the more difficulty the more op she was, the AI has more money on higher difficulties making her tribute so good.on hard above you almost always get full 8k from major faction, and then with the bonus. it's crazy.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by ChaosKhan:

Originally posted by jdtuggey:

I've gotten sort of the same results with Gongsun Zan, I've captured the 3 northern horse pastures and suddenly my cavalry cost 0, so I could field 10 cav armies and still rack in 25k+ income per turn, up to a point where I had well over 1mil. It's become my de-facto strategy, people really underestimate the lesser lords. I don't play on leg but it still feels way overpowered every time. I'm thinking of moving up the diff now that I've established a solid strat.

Screenshot plz.

https://imgur.com/a/4GkIjbg
May be out of order

Did not publish the last episodes, when tribute really gets crazy, but this was my very first tributary video published yesterday, it's in portuguese, feel free to mute and skip to the last moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0EzmeONjAE

Originally posted by Finn:

the more difficulty the more op she was, the AI has more money on higher difficulties making her tribute so good.on hard above you almost always get full 8k from major faction, and then with the bonus. it's crazy.

That would explain a lot, so the AI really is swimming in cash like that eh? Kinda ironic that this ability turns it against themselves.

[VoiD]

By the way, it's on legendary so I can't go back in time to the peak values, when I wasn't at war with the great kingdoms and I had max infamy and it's hard to look for the exact times that may or may not be there in previous videos.

[ChaosKhan]

I meant a screenshot of your "free" cavalry armies.

And which mod do you use for unit portraits?