Bamco's answer to Nier Automata & more

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

With some Psychonauts thrown in...

I find this game interesting particularly because it mirrors alot of Nier Automata's structure and isn't shy about it. Scarlet Nexus allows you to control a male and a female character who's storyline are different but parallel each other. This isn't all too different from what we played as 2b and 9s in Nier Automata. Other small things within the gameplay also give Nier Automata vibes - to name one thing, the way the broadsword floats and flies at enemies is very 2B. Great callback if you ask me.

Got a chance to talk to one of the devs on facebook, without going into too much detail of what was said, I'll summarize. I think it pretty neat to see they were open about the influences from Nier Automata and Psychonauts. Make sense since Psychonauts was really the first place anyone heard of "Brain Punk" and "Psycho-kinesis". I was always sad that this theme never really caught on in gaming so it's no surprise I pre-ordered for PS5 when I saw it. The influences are worn on their sleeves and they've cuffed those sleeves up to reveal super-cool tattoos.

Very much looking forward to this one, really hope it turns out well!

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

You comparing this game to those games, which are a very different in genre, btw none of those games were ever or wanted to be action rpgs. I have no idea wtf god of war turned into, but what i saw reminded me about an even more simplified souls type combat, which is just bad. So yeah you are off to a very bad start. Telling me that is a good thing just makes this even more a self own.

Doesn't look like you actually playes any of the games I've mentioned because each of them are actually the same genre as Scarlet Nexus and Nier Automata. Nier Automata isn't a Jrpg, it's an action game with Rpg elements. Spiderman, god of war, the new tomb raiders all have skill trees, leveling, dialogue, gear and side quests. I'd do some more research before telling someone they are in a bad position.

And how is it not a good thing? Better control schemes are essential to great gameplay and improving overall experience. Just because you prefer a keyboard and mouse, doesn't make a game like Super Meat Boy or Hollow Knight inferior... Fact is that console gamers are typically better at action games due to that alone, which is probably why publishers cater optimization to console gamers and oc gamers are often just an after thought. Let's be real here.

Nice try though.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

This might surprise you but i was not talking about the combat in this one but about story, you however made me sure of what i had in mind as i read your comparison above.

It doesn't surprise me that you blame me for your lack of forward communication skills. You weren't clear on that amd should had been more clear, not sure how your mistakes are my fault but moving on lol

You just have no damn idea what you are talking about! Did you ever in your life play a real character action game? DMC, Bayonetta, hell even Metal Ger Rising? While i do admit those games are more complex compared to nier automat's and now nier replicant's systems all the other games you mentioned have nothing to do with either or.

No, never played any of those games, just have them in my library and 100%'d them

Nope, you're totally right! Would you like a cookie?

So do me a favor and just stop talking about combat systems. It's very clear you made this topic for a simple reason and that is attention, due to nier replicant being a hot topic at the moment.

Damn you sound like a whiney peasant bro, how about you get over people comparing this game to Nier Automata? It's clear you're a fanboy, probably paidby Square Enix to bash the game and anyone who mentions it with Nier. Well, tough luck, there's thousands of people comparimg it and it doesn't exactly help your case when Bamco says they wanted to make a Nier like game.

You really and honestly come off as an unpaid pr rep, not gonna lie.

This coming from someone who writes a comment on 10 different threads in less than 5 minutes, we get it, you're offended that this game is being compared to Nier Automata, so much so that you're saying the new Ys game will be better.

You honestly come off as a Square Enix fanboy/shill. Not gonna lie. Your "points" would be taken alot more seriously if you actually explained your thoughts rather than throw around snife petty insults lol I have no doubt Squenix mailed you a check to troll this forum. Now maybe buy a new gpu to take better screenshots and you can move on from being jealous?

[WhiteLezard]

I hope Scarlet Nexus is a straight action game and not a mindless button masher carried by its narrative like Nier Automata and that's why I'm waiting for first impressions or ideally a demo rather than preordering.
If the game is designed like Automata, I won't bother.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

WhiteLezard původně napsal:

I hope Scarlet Nexus is a straight action game and not a mindless button masher carried by its narrative like Nier Automata and that's why I'm waiting for first impressions or ideally a demo rather than preordering.
If the game is designed like Automata, I won't bother.

The cool thing is that it's combat and story structure is similar to Nier Automata but there's some actual depth to the combat, so there is a certain way to take advantage of the environment in pretty creative ways.

I have been following the Bandai Namco facebook and they are saying there are certain mechanics to change up the gameplay, not talking QTE's but actual freedom that the dev is giving players. Things like physics in the environment as well as meta human powers whether physical, metaphysical or supernatural or other dimensional and that's why I pre-ordered the game to be honest, seeing all this brought about in the game in glorious detail sold me and I'll be playing the demo and leaving those impressions here as well :)

Edit:

To elaborate further on the depth abd versatility on the combat, here are some things to give you an idea:

1.) We can use stealth - borrowing the invisibility power from a team mate, the player can be rendered completely invisible and do power strikes (poweful finishers/one hit kills).

2.) The player can use elementally charged weapons and powers to strategically fight enemies. If there is say, an aquarium in the environment, move it with your psychokinesis, break it over your opponents, then use lightning to zap your opponents.

3.) Control your opponent's minds, make them comitt suicide or perhaps other things?

4.) Duplicate yourself to give yourseof strength or hide oneself in a crowd of oneself.

5.) Shift into another dimension and unleash devestation upon foes.

6.) Don't use abilities or powers and just fight tradionally with a sword or the like.

The possibilities are there, truly.

[Bazzy]

WhiteLezard původně napsal:

I hope Scarlet Nexus is a straight action game and not a mindless button masher carried by its narrative like Nier Automata and that's why I'm waiting for first impressions or ideally a demo rather than preordering.
If the game is designed like Automata, I won't bother.

That will not be the case. There is leveling mechanics in the footage shown and linked in this thread already. Brain map or what stupid name they call it. Sounds like the console demo at the end of the month gets the same name, btw.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

Brain map or what stupid name they call it.

No more stupid than "Chip fusion" in Nier Automata though, right?
https://youtu.be/GeIPJCNzsYI

[Bazzy]

♡ Kațalîna Arýzê ♡ původně napsal:

Bazzy původně napsal:

Brain map or what stupid name they call it.

No more stupid than "Chip fusion" in Nier Automata though, right?
https://youtu.be/GeIPJCNzsYI

Just to ignore your childish ways for a sec. I wish the chip system were a thing in the replicant remake. Looking at how versatile it is, it's an amazing idea to give an rpg depth.

Hell didn't the surge do something similar as well? I never played those games, even though i have the first.. but anyway the idea getting impemented into other games would be great.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

♡ Kațalîna Arýzê ♡ původně napsal:

No more stupid than "Chip fusion" in Nier Automata though, right?
https://youtu.be/GeIPJCNzsYI

Just to ignore your childish ways for a sec. I wish the chip system were a thing in the replicant remake. Looking at how versatile it is, it's an amazing idea to give an rpg depth.

Hell didn't the surge do something similar as well? I never played those games, even though i have the first.. but anyway the idea getting impemented into other games would be great.

Not sure how my comment is in any way childish, I was just jokingly throwing back at you what you were throwing out but with something that actually supported why the chip fusion was a stupid name lol

Never played The Surge, don't know much about it except that it had souls like combat. I remember when it came out and I had 0% interest in the game, then I remember feeling the same when the sequel released.

[Bazzy]

I disagree chips getting installed in androids makes as much sense as it could make. And fusing them thogether is nothing more than a crafting system for them to get better ones.

But i would honestly vastly prefer talking about info we could share to determain if this game is worth it's asking price. That is the biggest questionmark i have in regards to this game after all. And the primary motivator in still asking things in this sub. Sadly i didn't get much to make a decision to either wait for a sale or buy the game relatively quickly.

I never really bothered with code vein, becasue i'm just very tired of "souls-like" games. Thus i always hoped this game would be more on the character action game side of things and i'm not even sure about that anymore. There was a juggle in the last live stream footage you linked yesterday, but maybe that was just coincidence. I see myself just looking at demo gameplay on youtube at the end of the month if this continues to waste everyone's time.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

But i would honestly vastly prefer talking about info we could share to determain if this game is worth it's asking price. That is the biggest questionmark i have in regards to this game after all. And the primary motivator in still asking things in this sub. Sadly i didn't get much to make a decision to either wait for a sale or buy the game relatively quickly.

Okay? What was the original question? I never saw that you were legitimately seeking info about the game. Just saw more of a string of rants when people compared it to Nier Automata.
Ask away.

I never really bothered with code vein, becasue i'm just very tired of "souls-like" games.

I have beaten all the Dark Souls, thought they were overrated but enjoyed playing Code Vein in co-op with a friend. You really do need real friends to enjoy Code Vein to the fullest, that coupled with the anime and story made it an amazing game all in itself.

Thus i always hoped this game would be more on the character action game side of things and i'm not even sure about that anymore. There was a juggle in the last live stream footage you linked yesterday, but maybe that was just coincidence. I see myself just looking at demo gameplay on youtube at the end of the month if this continues to waste everyone's time.

I wouldn't expect crazy combos like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta, again it's closest to Nier Automata but with physics, elemental and environmental combat. So while there may be a juggle here and there, don't expect some hyper air combos. This is an action adventure game first and foremost sprinkled with rpg elements and borrowing some of Code Veins unique systems as well.

Now I'm giving you the info as I know more about the game than you do but it's up to you whether you'll accept it or reject the fact and resolve to insult. I can always post more videos too.

[Bazzy]

♡ Kațalîna Arýzê ♡ původně napsal:

Bazzy původně napsal:

But i would honestly vastly prefer talking about info we could share to determain if this game is worth it's asking price. That is the biggest questionmark i have in regards to this game after all. And the primary motivator in still asking things in this sub. Sadly i didn't get much to make a decision to either wait for a sale or buy the game relatively quickly.

Okay? What was the original question? I never saw that you were legitimately seeking info about the game. Just saw more of a string of rants when people compared it to Nier Automata.
Ask away.

I never really bothered with code vein, becasue i'm just very tired of "souls-like" games.

I have beaten all the Dark Souls, thought they were overrated but enjoyed playing Code Vein in co-op with a friend. You really do need real friends to enjoy Code Vein to the fullest, that coupled with the anime and story made it an amazing game all in itself.

Thus i always hoped this game would be more on the character action game side of things and i'm not even sure about that anymore. There was a juggle in the last live stream footage you linked yesterday, but maybe that was just coincidence. I see myself just looking at demo gameplay on youtube at the end of the month if this continues to waste everyone's time.

I wouldn't expect crazy combos like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta, again it's closest to Nier Automata but with physics, elemental and environmental combat. So while there may be a juggle here and there, don't expect some hyper air combos. This is an action adventure game first and foremost sprinkled with rpg elements and borrowing some of Code Veins unique systems as well.

Now I'm giving you the info as I know more about the game than you do but it's up to you whether you'll accept it or reject the fact and resolve to insult. I can always post more videos too.

Hoenstly the problem with you giving out info's is really the fact that you seem bias towards the game. So while i will look at links you post still. I do have a hard time getting around the things you do describe with that bias in mind. I hope you understand that pov. It is not meant as an insult, but just how i see taking info form folks that already told me they like something.

Anyway thank you for posting those link's they were a start in getting my mind made up for the time being regarding this game. If you or anybody else have more gameplay and demo footage in the future i will be sure to check back.

I wanted infos about the gameplay the first time i posted, becasue that is just how i see games. And we both seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. So yeah that is all for at this time. I think we can interact civilized form now on again.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

Hoenstly the problem with you giving out info's is really the fact that you seem bias towards the game. So while i will look at links you post still. I do have a hard time getting around the things you do describe with that bias in mind. I hope you understand that pov. It is not meant as an insult, but just how i see taking info form folks that already told me they like something.

That doesn't make sense.

The info I post has b othing to do with me or me being biased one way or the other. If the developer stated something then they stated it abd people know this. If the combat has something it has it.

Anyway thank you for posting those link's they were a start in getting my mind made up for the time being regarding this game. If you or anybody else have more gameplay and demo footage in the future i will be sure to check back.

I wanted infos about the gameplay the first time i posted, becasue that is just how i see games. And we both seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. So yeah that is all for at this time. I think we can interact civilized form now on again.

It's a dhsme that not too lomg after you write this you went all out to insult and curse mode in the other thread lol

[Bazzy]

♡ Kațalîna Arýzê ♡ původně napsal:

Bazzy původně napsal:

Hoenstly the problem with you giving out info's is really the fact that you seem bias towards the game. So while i will look at links you post still. I do have a hard time getting around the things you do describe with that bias in mind. I hope you understand that pov. It is not meant as an insult, but just how i see taking info form folks that already told me they like something.

That doesn't make sense.

The info I post has b othing to do with me or me being biased one way or the other. If the developer stated something then they stated it abd people know this. If the combat has something it has it.

Anyway thank you for posting those link's they were a start in getting my mind made up for the time being regarding this game. If you or anybody else have more gameplay and demo footage in the future i will be sure to check back.

I wanted infos about the gameplay the first time i posted, becasue that is just how i see games. And we both seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. So yeah that is all for at this time. I think we can interact civilized form now on again.

It's a dhsme that not too lomg after you write this you went all out to insult and curse mode in the other thread lol

That was the echo to your post in the other thread, which you wrote before.
So kindly look into the mirror for getting back what you did, you little brat.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Bazzy původně napsal:

That was the echo to your post in the other thread, which you wrote before.
So kindly look into the mirror for getting back what you did, you little brat.

Similar but definitely not a copy and paste.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

New raw gameplay released, makes me happy I pre-ordered.

The town and character models looks absolutely stunning. Whoever is behind the art direction deserves a fotune cookie!

https://youtu.be/Fb22V8tXwFw