greed ring + greed modifier?

[BillyOnFire123]

i think it would be cool if there was a way to see greed mods more often, getting to island 100 i see about 1 - 2 greed portals the whole time.

when i do normal runs where i may potentially loop once, the chance to see a single greed perk is a very rare occurrence.

it would be cool if there was some sort of greed relic that would massively boost the chance of seeing greed perks. this could be done in multiple ways such as making greed portals an extra option when picking portals, or it just makes greed perks show up in normal chests instead of exclusively greed chests.

but yeah i really like greed perks, where its one big upside with also one downside. just kinda wished i saw them more often tbh.

[Dopey Shepard]

Tbh not all greed perks are all that good. Some of them are complete troll that will force you to restart a run

Like that Glass Cannon or something, where you lose 20% of current hp. Needs a complete rework. It's 2500/wave is nothing after Loop. Noisestorm already re-designed another perk that would give you crystals at the end of a wave. This one needs rework

Another troll is the one where you lose most of your max hp. Since max hp directly affects your armor, even if you have Reinforced/Regenerating Armor or whatever, staying alive is gonna be hard since every single attack will take at least 1 armor plate off of you, cuz of your low hp. You DONT want to have low HP

Other greed perks are just flat out broken, like do 150% more dmg but lose 1% max hp each enemy attack? That's like S tier, so is High Roller.

The issue is the totems that give you a random greed perk where you dont even know what you are picking. When you do Greed Island, at least you have a choice whether to get something or NOT to get it. You don't have that choice with a Greed Totem, you are gonna end up trolling yourself at some point and it would suck a lot if you are already at Loop 1 cuz you CANT remove a greed perk no matter what

So no, I disagree. We don't necessarily need stuff to make greed stuff appear more often as these perks first and foremost, need a rework, and second, if you do draw more Greed Islands that is just broken, I'm sorry

Maybe in the future there's gonna be some sort of "cleansing" introduced where you have a choice to cleanse yourself of one greed perk of your own choice

[Casurin]

greed is simply too random and broken.

Double-edged-sword:
You get a percentage of damage as crystals - for most weapons that is a poor-mans version of money-shot. Buuuut you also lose crystals when taking damage and there it is not related to how much damage you take but a flat-percentage. You burn? Yeah you are broke now.

Not being able to get rid of greed as well as many being just so bad means that greed-totems really mess up your runs for good.
Some of the perks are actually decent (but get bad if you upgrade them) or are great overall. But for that to be viable you need to get them from a greed-chest.

having items that increase the chance of specific totems/items to appear... meh, that would seem a bit incosistent.

[achiIIesHeal]

Granted I've only been playing like 2 hours, I've noticed if I use a greed and lose some health, if I then get a bronze heart or better to increase my hp, it goes up the percentage of health without greed and negates the debuff entirely

[Casurin]

Originally posted by achiIIesHeal:

Granted I've only been playing like 2 hours, I've noticed if I use a greed and lose some health, if I then get a bronze heart or better to increase my hp, it goes up the percentage of health without greed and negates the debuff entirely

That depends on the type of greed-buff you got.

[Limdood]

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

where you lose 20% of current hp. Needs a complete rework. It's 2500/wave is nothing after Loop.

That one was changed in one of the past patches. It isn't a flat 2500. It scales now. IIRC, it's roughly 5-6 levels of paycheck.

Maybe still a pretty steep price to pay....but less useless past island ~24, and less OP before island ~8

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by Limdood:

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

where you lose 20% of current hp. Needs a complete rework. It's 2500/wave is nothing after Loop.

That one was changed in one of the past patches. It isn't a flat 2500. It scales now. IIRC, it's roughly 5-6 levels of paycheck.

Maybe still a pretty steep price to pay....but less useless past island ~24, and less OP before island ~8

oh ok I may not have tested that one with the latest update as I was afraid to grab it cuz I know it's a troll one

Originally posted by Casurin:

greed is simply too random and broken.

Double-edged-sword:
You get a percentage of damage as crystals - for most weapons that is a poor-mans version of money-shot. Buuuut you also lose crystals when taking damage and there it is not related to how much damage you take but a flat-percentage. You burn? Yeah you are broke now.

Not being able to get rid of greed as well as many being just so bad means that greed-totems really mess up your runs for good.
Some of the perks are actually decent (but get bad if you upgrade them) or are great overall. But for that to be viable you need to get them from a greed-chest.

having items that increase the chance of specific totems/items to appear... meh, that would seem a bit incosistent.

I personally think double edged sword was always beneficial in my runs. Also it directly applies to all the weapons. Money Shot, as it is, is garbage in Loop1+ but DES is always working like charm. I don't think I was even losing that much in crystals as I was gaining

[Casurin]

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

I personally think double edged sword was always beneficial in my runs. Also it directly applies to all the weapons. Money Shot, as it is, is garbage in Loop1+ but DES is always working like charm. I don't think I was even losing that much in crystals as I was gaining

Moneyshot is mostly better with fast-firing weapons and does not have the insane downside. of course not good with heavier-hitting weapons.

With losing 20% for a single tick of damage you fight without getting a single hit and then on the last islands before the shop you get hit by some fire... and all the money just vanished.
And by the first loop you are far better of with some crystal-dividens.

[Dumpy93]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Originally posted by Dopey Shepard:

I personally think double edged sword was always beneficial in my runs. Also it directly applies to all the weapons. Money Shot, as it is, is garbage in Loop1+ but DES is always working like charm. I don't think I was even losing that much in crystals as I was gaining

Moneyshot is mostly better with fast-firing weapons and does not have the insane downside. of course not good with heavier-hitting weapons.

With losing 20% for a single tick of damage you fight without getting a single hit and then on the last islands before the shop you get hit by some fire... and all the money just vanished.
And by the first loop you are far better of with some crystal-dividens.

Fire doesn't cause you to lose any crystals (or HP with the other greed perk). Only direct damage triggers that effect.