Is there any reason to take High Roller?

[Valerie]

Title.

Every time I've gotten it it's just so bad. I'll get 6 rounds sometimes without a chest drop.

[Dumpy93]

The math says yes if you are doing a 30 round run. If you are going to round 60 its probably not due to other perks that will increase the number of chests you get. If you are running nightmare all modifiers I wouldn't grab it unless you absolutely have to, since there are more opportunities for double chests in that mode as well.

[Melon]

It is the worst greed item in my opinion, if you do flawless or double chest areas thinks about it, you have a 66.6% chance to get 3 chests or a 33.3% chance to get no chest, it would only ever be worth it if you never did flawless islands or double chest islands. The amount of runs I have lost because it decides to take all my chests away for 5 islands in a row... despicable.

[Limdood]

it can make low risk runs better.....on average you get 2 bonus chests and one "no" chests every 3 islands.

If you don't get performance bonus or any other source of loot-based extra chests, and you tend not to do challenge islands, then the only extra chests you risk losing out on are the bonus health boss chest and the flawless chests.

It's a good greed perk for mediocre players (for worst greed perk, my money is on "increased player health but also increased enemy health"). If you're a good player who can regularly leverage those extra flawless chests or performance bonus, and can effortlessly defeat challenge islands, then it's value falls off....possibly to breaking even on chests, or perhaps even lower in some circumstances...due to losing 2 (or more) chests when the "no chests" procs, but still only gaining one chest when the extra chest procs. To actually get no benefit at all mathematically, you'd have to get two chests from EVERY island (2/3 chance to get 1 extra chest, 1/3 chance to lose both of the two chests you'd get....+2 chests, -2 chests every 3 islands)....which is doable, but not really all that common in a basic 30 island run.

Keep in mind that humans tend to fixate on the "bad" - so while getting a bonus chest is a "yay! i got another perk!", MISSING a bonus chest is "GODDA****! THIS THING KEEPS F***ING ME OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN!" If you want an accurate look, start writing down the chests gained and lost from the moment you get the perk.

Lastly, it was reported that Gold Dice incorrectly increases the chance of getting NO chest, rather than getting an extra chest, and the developer saw the report and responded that it will be fixed next patch.

[Rideps]

For all of the above reasons, IMO it's the only greed perk that really gets worse and worse as the difficulty goes up. Never ever take it willingly unless you're looping on easy.

At least you CAN play around the other greed perks that are almost death sentences.

[Coffee Elemental]

I'm a little late here but I always take high roller ONCE if I see it in the first couple islands, one copy is incredible (until it takes the epic chest 3 times in a row...). The penalty can be mitigated in super long runs if you find the ring of luck.

[DerpyPannycake]

Yea only worth with the ring of Luck would never take otherwise

[De Espirit]

Yep, it's a good perk but only under the following conditions:

• You only plan on looping once or not at all
  
• You don't get any other perks that increase treasure drops
  
• You only get ONE (1) instance of High Roller (stats actually get WORSE with levels)
  
• Preferably you get it as early as possible, say within the first two biomes

It can save a run in the early game but once you're properly geared up it turns into dead weight real fast.

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by Melon:

It is the worst greed item in my opinion, if you do flawless or double chest areas thinks about it, you have a 66.6% chance to get 3 chests or a 33.3% chance to get no chest, it would only ever be worth it if you never did flawless islands or double chest islands. The amount of runs I have lost because it decides to take all my chests away for 5 islands in a row... despicable.

It is absolutely NOT the worst greed perk, wtf are you talking about

All you gotta do is keep it at level 1, and not raise it through any means

The payout should be insanely huge

Either way, there are PLENTY of absolutely useless greed perks out there like the 25% damage multiplier outgoing and incoming as well as others

Originally posted by DerpyPannycake:

Yea only worth with the ring of Luck would never take otherwise

and that's totally wrong. It is a very nice greed perk, one of the best, as a matter of fact. Will work wonders in your typical diamond rank single-loop run