Cleofas just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died on me

[A-Sartek]

First time I found Cleofas I already had all three items to free Socorro, I didn't even had a chance or even know I had to talk to Lvdovico. So Cleofas just screamed after I reenter the room at the top of the wall, then I assumed he was dead but I didn't really care about looking for his body but THEN when Lvdovico gave me that item "because I met Cleofas and to please give this item to him" it hit me, Cleofas was already cold and smashed like a pumpkin.

Then the Miracle hit me a second time... Achievements/story bits are missable just by interacting with NPCs in the wrong order. Now I don't know how to feel about that, probably the entire quest is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and it took several hours to get to this point.

[Hotel Security]

>Then the Miracle hit me a second time... Achievements/story bits are missable just by interacting with NPCs in the wrong order. Now I don't know how to feel about that

If you care this much about achievements then you should be in the habit of at least looking up the missables in any new game. And if you don't want to do that because of spoilers then you should be prepared to accept that this will likely result in you missing some stuff on a first run.

In either case, this is nothing new. Tons of games have missable achievements. If you care about them like me, then look them up before you play. Otherwise just accept that you'll likely miss some and have to replay the game.

[robertcadav]

Some games are meant to be replayed multiple times. Its an amazing game dont you want to replay it and do all the penitent runs ? I have played this game over 5 times and I still want more of it. You get better each time and faster. First time took me like 26 hours, next time half that and now I could probably beat the game in around 6 hours.

[A-Sartek]

Publicado originalmente por Hotel Security:

>Then the Miracle hit me a second time... Achievements/story bits are missable just by interacting with NPCs in the wrong order. Now I don't know how to feel about that

If you care this much about achievements then you should be in the habit of at least looking up the missables in any new game. And if you don't want to do that because of spoilers then you should be prepared to accept that this will likely result in you missing some stuff on a first run.

In either case, this is nothing new. Tons of games have missable achievements. If you care about them like me, then look them up before you play. Otherwise just accept that you'll likely miss some and have to replay the game.

I agree, basically is ♥♥♥ culpa for not looking for any missable achievements, however I did that somewhat on purpose because I like the discovery part from Metroidvanias so technically I've been punished for being excessively inquisitive and having the items ready to complete the quest in the worst outcome possible...

More than the achievements though I think is also part of that satisfaction of making the right choice but there were no lore/visual/other cues that I was heading into the right direction, well, that is at least for this NPC side quest and the walking peregrine quest. Nevertheless, It is a really creative take I must say, it makes sense that without purpose Cleofas just takes his life and I missed the chance to do better for the priest. It is kinda like that feeling you have when you could save the animals in Metroid but it is highly unlikely to find out on your own that you had to go back to the Chorizo room to destroy a wall and save em.

[A-Sartek]

Publicado originalmente por robertcadav:

Some games are meant to be replayed multiple times. Its an amazing game dont you want to replay it and do all the penitent runs ? I have played this game over 5 times and I still want more of it. You get better each time and faster. First time took me like 26 hours, next time half that and now I could probably beat the game in around 6 hours.

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Oh yeah I'm enjoying the game, once I finish my first run I'm definitely playing it again, is just that as I mentioned in my previous comment I wanted to nail it on my first try (no catholic pun intended lol).

I've been meditating about my "seasoned gamer" mindset lately, which is what leads me to care about making the right choice (because I'm supposed to extrapolate my skills from other games), but honestly I've been having more fun by not thinking too much about reaching the end, instead just enjoying the ride and the road to get there.

[Hotel Security]

For the Cleofas part, I read ahead on it and actually backed up my save on that. I purposely didn't open the door for the wanderer guy then did the events to get Cleofas to die so the wanderer guy could find him and get the trophy. Then I reloaded the old save and did the route to keep him alive.

As far as I can tell it's the only thing I had to save-state for. So I got the plat on the first run but still played NG+ multiple times for the Amacida content and then later again for the Ending C stuff.

[raptorgamingcorp]

i dont even know what to feel playing this game honestly its a bit strange and tho i only made it like an hour in story is very strange

[A-Sartek]

Publicado originalmente por raptorgamingcorp:

i dont even know what to feel playing this game honestly its a bit strange and tho i only made it like an hour in story is very strange

I think that oddity, religious themes and world building is what makes this game great. Btw, once you finish the game you may experience something like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3462073983

I sure did, LOL!

[Hotel Security]

Yes, the story is quite strange and I'll admit I didn't understand some aspects until I watched a lore video. But it's otherwise very cool and the world they build around the Miracles belief is pretty fascinating and really unlike most games. I think you'll get enough to see the kind of world you're in but the overall motivations of some of the characters is a bit mirky.

Though I didn't like Ending C having us kill god which is a cliche in so many of these games...after seeing Ending A&B, I was thinking Blasphemous was above that.