Perpetva not defeated 1st time, locked out from 3rd ending?

[Zombait]

If you don't defeat Perpetva the first time are you locked out of trying to get the DLC ending?

[Malkav0]

As far as I know, no, the fight is just a chance to get a rosary bead.

[PJ Dade]

It's ok if you lose to her in Mountains of Endless Dusk, as long as you find her tomb before meeting Esdras at the bridge. Also don't fight Crisanta before you finish the new sidequest.

[Zombait]

Originally posted by Malkav0:

As far as I know, no, the fight is just a chance to get a rosary bead.

Can you still get the bead on the next fight?

[Malkav0]

Originally posted by Zombait:

Originally posted by Malkav0:

As far as I know, no, the fight is just a chance to get a rosary bead.

Can you still get the bead on the next fight?

Yes, it should lie near the same tree after Esdras fight. Don't know how that works with new path without the fight, but you'll see for yourself if it's there after meeting Esdras.

[Hotel Security]

I can confirm you can lose to her and this has no effect on getting the truest ending or any of the related events. I died to her on my run and everything was fine.

Though I wonder if you get a slight change from Perpetua's dialogue based on the fight since she mentions how that "shadow that defeated you" that was influencing Esdras wasn't actually her. I wonder if this line would change had I won the fight.

[Malkav0]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

I can confirm you can lose to her and this has no effect on getting the truest ending or any of the related events. I died to her on my run and everything was fine.

Though I wonder if you get a slight change from Perpetua's dialogue based on the fight since she mentions how that "shadow that defeated you" that was influencing Esdras wasn't actually her. I wonder if this line would change had I won the fight.

You do get a change

[Mitsos]

You get an achievement the first time you beat her and that's it. You lose absolutely nothing else.

[Hotel Security]

^Only other difference with beating her is you get her rosary right there...otherwise you don't get it until you beat Esdras.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

I can confirm you can lose to her and this has no effect on getting the truest ending or any of the related events. I died to her on my run and everything was fine.

Though I wonder if you get a slight change from Perpetua's dialogue based on the fight since she mentions how that "shadow that defeated you" that was influencing Esdras wasn't actually her. I wonder if this line would change had I won the fight.

considering she says the same "the shadow you defeated" even if you didn't fight her at all (the fight can easily be skipped on NG+) i'd say the dialogue never changes

[Hotel Security]

considering she says the same "the shadow you defeated" even if you didn't fight her at all

Yes, but it changes to "shadow that defeated you" if you lost the fight. That's what happened on my run.

My question is with her Rosary. If you play on NG and lose to her you would normally still get her item when you beat Esdras. So if you both lose to Perpetva and go for the true ending and skip the Esdras fight, would you lose out on her rosary?