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You need to have Redento (Half-bent old man) right in front of the giant cathedral, Cleofas landed there. Now you just need to speak the Redento. Voilà.
If Redento is already standing there, When Cleofas jumps, works, confirmed.
I see, thanks. I imagined that was the case, because that's the only map they can "meet". Thanks for confirming.
While doing his quest he will eventually go to the patio, so make Cleofas jump of the roof first, and then go talk to him, while he is there.