Charred Visage boss fight

[Soulmyr]

I managed to beat him after a few tries (finding out you can knock the orange balls to damage him helped a lot) but I still can't manage to avoid his super fireball spam, which always seems in conjunction with orange balls. Any ideas how to avoid this attack?

[RE4everMK]

Git gud :P

Equip the fire resistance item and just endure it. Don't get hit at the beggining of the fight and you should have no problem taking some hits in the second half.

[Sideras]

That's the problem, it just doesn't feel good to face tank crap like that.
You want to learn to avoid everything. That fireball spam is unavoidable afaik.

I took the boss down after a few tries but that spastic fireball attack is really cheap on an otherwise decently designed boss fight.

[MunchieDog]

Yeah I just think some patterns are unavoidable. It's just bad design to be honest. The boss wasn't necessarily hard considering how you can abuse air combos, but having to take damage is a bit weird.

[WelTigZ]

Originally posted by Chris:

Yeah I just think some patterns are unavoidable. It's just bad design to be honest. The boss wasn't necessarily hard considering how you can abuse air combos, but having to take damage is a bit weird.

14:08 No damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFjQ-_WsTo

[MunchieDog]

Cool, but as I said. Some attack patterns may just be unavoidable. He had great RNG on that fight and never had the dual-super fast light orb cast.

[gungadin22000]

For this boss, I heartily recommend the "faster slide-dodge recharge" enhancement. I beat her first try by simply spamming dodges through all the bad stuff she kept throwing at me.

[luvcraft]

ugh, came here hoping there was some solution to the fireball spam that I was just missing, but apparently it's unavoidable, and the suggestions are to use the fire resist item (which I don't have) or the faster slide recharge item (which I also don't have). Especially doesn't help that the only spell I've found so far is the one that goes along walls, so it's useless here. This is very disappointing. I guess I'll try a few more times, but this might be the end of this otherwise amazing game for me.

[luvcraft]

Originally posted by luvcraft:

ugh, came here hoping there was some solution to the fireball spam that I was just missing, but apparently it's unavoidable, and the suggestions are to use the fire resist item (which I don't have) or the faster slide recharge item (which I also don't have). Especially doesn't help that the only spell I've found so far is the one that goes along walls, so it's useless here. This is very disappointing. I guess I'll try a few more times, but this might be the end of this otherwise amazing game for me.

I finally got her, and then realized afterwards that I'd made the classic Souls-game mistake and accidentally tackled the hardest boss first! Next boss was WAY easier. :D

So, for anyone else who comes to this thread wondering why the first real boss is so hard: you're doing them out of order. :D

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by luvcraft:

Originally posted by luvcraft:

ugh, came here hoping there was some solution to the fireball spam that I was just missing, but apparently it's unavoidable, and the suggestions are to use the fire resist item (which I don't have) or the faster slide recharge item (which I also don't have). Especially doesn't help that the only spell I've found so far is the one that goes along walls, so it's useless here. This is very disappointing. I guess I'll try a few more times, but this might be the end of this otherwise amazing game for me.

I finally got her, and then realized afterwards that I'd made the classic Souls-game mistake and accidentally tackled the hardest boss first! Next boss was WAY easier. :D

So, for anyone else who comes to this thread wondering why the first real boss is so hard: you're doing them out of order. :D

Unfortunately this is a pitfall you sort of have to have intuition with when it comes to the roguelike genre. I think backtracking out of an area and going to fight another boss usually makes one go “ohhhh this makes sense” and adapt accordingly. Sometimes you can beat harder bosses out of order, and sadly that sort of free path-taking is only available to seasoned players.

And then theres the people who die to tutorial bosses and blame the game...thats a whole other story lol.

[Supermarine]

Originally posted by Weltigz:

Originally posted by Chris:

Yeah I just think some patterns are unavoidable. It's just bad design to be honest. The boss wasn't necessarily hard considering how you can abuse air combos, but having to take damage is a bit weird.

14:08 No damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFjQ-_WsTo

Thanks for sharing!

[Pepper]

Has this fight been changed since that video or something?
The 4 way fireball spam in the second phase seems always fire at double/triple rate making it basically impossible to dodge and the hand doesn't fly a little away to do it to me like seems to in the video. I'm also finding the hit detection/box on the red orbs occasionaly iffy. Sometimes watch my sword pass right through, even after hitting several in a row no trouble.
The attacks shown in the video are piss easy compared to what I'm going up against every try on second phase. Sadly no fire resistance item so trying magic resistance and only have 2 heals

[edit] Eventually forced thru it. Absolutely awful.

The strategy I ended up using in case it helps anyone else (I reccommend don't, come back later) - The first phase got the health bar down close to halfway. Then carried on avoiding everything till get lucky the head & hand are arranged such that could can knock a whole string of red orbs into the head. That gives a good head start on the second phase and just hope it doesn't spam the rapid fire fireballs repeatedly. The lasers are easy enough to avoid so if lucky get enough attacks from those to dodge whilst dealing the pain.
This isn't a boast but how screwed the second phase of that fight was. It took probably a couple hours get through that battle yet I went on to defeat the next 3 [Perpetva, Tres Angustias & Ten Piedad] all first time without even needing to use one health vial. All other bosses were a cakewalk by comparison.