[SPOLIER!!] Question to some achievments

[TeeKayOne2009]

Hello together,

I ve played the game twice now and tried different ways which made me thought that I could get every trophy/achievment.

First playthrough I travelled with Zaki to the moon with his wife. Afterwards I send them together to Renaki. I never saw them again. Aamir was taken to Maersi wehre I could later speak with the pigs. From Rekani I travelled with the book girl to Iox to the libary.

In the second playthrough I send Aamir to Elboreth wehre he worked for Timor. I send Sya to Elboreth too and give Yazi his freedom there. I hoped this would be the Reunion but its not. I collected the crown and never gave it to the professor but A Crowning Secret not work. I collected also the giant book from the libary with no air. I read everything and bring it to Huang. There I talked with the professor (I made a save copy before) and she told me the whole Legend Of The Sea. But this trophy didnt pop up.

As you can see I ve tried a lot of things. But now I need help. First question: If I would play it a third time would the knowledge of both walkthroughs count?

And now I want some hints please what I maybe did wrong or what I forgot to gain the last achievments:

- A Crowning Secret
- The Gates Of Iox
- A Reunion
- Breaking In
- The Old Sea

Thank you very much for the help.

[mreed2]

A Crowning Secret is easy: When you find the reliquary, don't try to open it yourself, ask Six to do it. He fails, because he can't grip the lid to open it. There is a dialog option where you point out that prior robots had extensions for their arms to lever open things like this, and Six agrees to return to the ship and look for something along these lines. Once he leaves, open the box (via the normal means -- using the fire place poker or a weapon to lever open the lid) and the achievement will fire. While not required, you'll be given extra dialog options later to keep the crown secret from Six, although there are some consistency gaps (the most obvious is that Six includes the Crown in the list of items that you recovered from the Hermitage moon when he prompts you to leave).

[cswiger]

The only one I'm sure about is A Crowning Secret.

You've got to lie to Six when trying to open the reliquary holding the crown, and send him away to pick up a crowbar from the ship, and then open it yourself while Six is away using the iron poker.

And you need to keep the crown hidden and not discuss it with anyone without sending Six away first. For example, with Oroi, tell Six to leave and go search for potential intruders. Otherwise, Six will rat you out to Myari and Iox.

[Dankachu]

I think you have to sneak into the office maybe while she's busy with the funeral?

Let me know if you're knowledge transfers over.

[mreed2]

Speculation on a couple of the others:

I think The Old Sea is broken -- it is meant to unlock when you find the remains of the regular sailing ship on the aquifer moon, but I did that and I don't have that achievement, and neither does anyone else.

In my NG+ playthrough, I talked with the daughter of the merchant on the market moon after talking to the merchant, and she had dialog options that implied alternate solutions to gaining the clue from the merchant -- which might have included a break-in. If so, there is likely a very narrow path to success here (not mentioning sailing at all is almost certainly a requirement). I think this is also part of the Reunion achievement (if she likes the PC enough, she'll agree to sail to Iox to be with the scholar there) and it wouldn't surprise me that they were mutually exclusive.

Language knowledge definitely transfers over to a NG+ -- when you try to translate the brooch at the very beginning, do you have any words with (at least) tentative definitions given? You should (I did), so therefore knowledge transfers over (if it didn't, you wouldn't have any defined words at this point). There have been several bug reports that carried over knowledge doesn't feed into the "Related Words" prompts, leading to statements such as "This doesn't look like anything that I've seen before" when this is obviously untrue, but the words and definitions themselves are available for use in translations (in my experience, at least).

[TeeKayOne2009]

What is with the moon with the crater in the middle which looks like an eye. There you can be alone for a few moments because you can climb through the window and Six is in the room. Is it possible to get through the hatch in the centre or is this not important?

The Crown trophy is clear now. Thanks. Then I really have to start a third time.

And that the Old Sea trophy is broken seems clear too.

The daughter of the merchent was in my first playthrough in Iox but there is only the trophy for the new student. Or do I have to take the father to Iox later too?

[TeeKayOne2009]

And thank you for all of the help.

What is with the other trophies?

[zyzz]

引用自 TeeKayOne2009：

What is with the moon with the crater in the middle which looks like an eye. There you can be alone for a few moments because you can climb through the window and Six is in the room. Is it possible to get through the hatch in the centre or is this not important?

You can get through the hatch for sure, I think there are a couple ways but what I did was to use the ancient stop word when Six tries to stop me from jumping in. This deactivates him long enough to try to jump inside.

[mreed2]

引用自 Dankachu：

I think you have to sneak into the office maybe while she's busy with the funeral?

Let me know if you're knowledge transfers over.

Based on examining the game's asset files, breaking into Myari's office (likely during the funeral) is possible (there is a flag "SIX_LET_YOU_EXPLORE_MYARIS_ROOM"), so I'd assume that this is where you need to focus for "Breaking In" (not something on the market moon).

If bringing the daughter to Iox awards the "New Student" achievement, then I have no clue as to what the Reunion achievement relates to. I was assuming the bringing the boy from the Merchant moon to Iox awarded "New Student".

You can examine the content of Unity asset files with the free utility found here: https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?22675-Unity-Assets-Bundle-Extractor (at the bottom of the first message). The file that contains all the flags is "sharedassets0.assets", extract "core", rename the file to .JSON, and open with a dedicated JSON viewer (I used Firefox), then "listDefs" -- a long list of flags will appear. Note that some of these flags might be associated with events that didn't make it into the final game, so... As always when poking around with game files that you aren't supposed to be viewing (or editing), buyer beware. :)

[TeeKayOne2009]

Sorry but I have another question as well. You learn the word Ifaris or something like that. For the gate in Elboreth. How do I get the second word after this? Is it important too?

[TeeKayOne2009]

I am a PS4 player. I can not and will not change game files

[mreed2]

引用自 TeeKayOne2009：

Sorry but I have another question as well. You learn the word Ifaris or something like that. For the gate in Elboreth. How do I get the second word after this? Is it important too?

It doesn't award an achievement, if that's what you are interested in. It is somewhat interesting. After verifying that Ifaris (sp) requires a destination in spoken Ancient, return to Iox and talk to Haung about a spoken ancient name for Heaven's Vault. He gives you something to try -- you can try it and it works, although it only takes you to the aquafier moon.

引用自 TeeKayOne2009：

I am a PS4 player. I can not and will not change game files

I'm not editing game files, just viewing them. Its still cheating, mind you, but I'm not going to play the game again, so...

[Holger]

引用自 mreed2：

If bringing the daughter to Iox awards the "New Student" achievement, then I have no clue as to what the Reunion achievement relates to. I was assuming the bringing the boy from the Merchant moon to Iox awarded "New Student".

Well, the picture of the "Enrollment" achievement does show the daughter.

引用自 mreed2：

As always when poking around with game files that you aren't supposed to be viewing (or editing), buyer beware. :)

It's a game about exploration, after all ^^

[TeeKayOne2009]

The "break in" doesnt work at the funreal. Could this be? I can not move while the professor is talking. And I can go upstairs when the professor told me to visit him in his room. I ve tried it multiply times but I am only 2 seconds in front of her. There is no time to steal something or am I only an idiot? I can grab under the table but she always catches me.

[mreed2]

Based on reading the flags, I think you need to arrive on Iox in time for the funeral, but then refuse to attend the funeral (remaining in the upper plaza area while the funeral is being performed). If you can achieve this, then you'll be able to walk around during the funeral and access the office.

Again, all of the above is purely a guess, although one informed by examining the games source code.

[TeeKayOne2009]

Great hint. Thank you very much. I got this one.