Heaven's Vault

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Chris May 13, 2019 @ 5:08am
In game Dictionary
When looking at a word to translate it gives you a list of related words but very often I know I have seen other words that look very similar but aren't in the related word list.

Is there a way to see all the words that you have encountered in a big list of some kind, preferably with known translation or current guess?

As it is I find myself having to just look through all the phrases I've found which is not very practical and even less so if there are three or four other words I want to compare.

Did I miss something or does this just not exist in game?
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Keruin May 13, 2019 @ 6:51am 
It's the question i was asking myself all the time i have played.
Dictionary would be very useful.
Chris May 13, 2019 @ 6:55am 
Yeah. It just seems like such an obvious thing in a game where a large part of it is working out how the language works. I think I've worked out some of the language elements but want to see a full list of words so that I can check if my theories work or not... Hopefully something they can patch in if its not already hidden in there somewhere!
Keruin May 13, 2019 @ 7:10am 
Well, it would be very nice if obtaining dictionary was story-driven thing (like finding book in the start of the game with some separated words, after that Aliya decided to fill it in), but i doubt there is such thing in game (not only story-driven dictionary, but dictionary at all).
Plus there are questions about keeping dictionary in New Game+ (though it would be very useful)
Last edited by Keruin; May 13, 2019 @ 7:10am
Does not exist in game. Probably better for you to keep a hand written dictionary if you want one.

It's not too hard to do such, as you only really have to write down each new morpheme or a word of a few morphemes and not much else.
SkepticMech May 13, 2019 @ 1:07pm 
While it isn't a part of the game, there are plenty of community maintained resources for the language; check out the Discord and Wiki links in the pinned messages.
Chris May 15, 2019 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by SkepticMech:
While it isn't a part of the game, there are plenty of community maintained resources for the language; check out the Discord and Wiki links in the pinned messages.

My assumption is that all these sorts of resources will have all the translations in them? Is there a site out there that has all the words without translations or something like that?
Keruin May 15, 2019 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Chris:
My assumption is that all these sorts of resources will have all the translations in them? Is there a site out there that has all the words without translations or something like that?
100% info that wiki has all lexemas formatted in table (you can simply do not look into translated column)
SkepticMech May 15, 2019 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by Chris:
My assumption is that all these sorts of resources will have all the translations in them? Is there a site out there that has all the words without translations or something like that?

Do you mean you want a list of all the English words that have had a ancient glyph equivalent created, but not have that equivalent shown? If so, to my knowledge that doesn't exist, for a number of reasons. We don't know how many words there are in total, even with a group effort from players (some of whom are on NG+++ or more) we are still finding new words. What purpose does that serve? You can't force the game to give you inscriptions containing certain words so it isn't like you can hunt down the ones you are missing.

If that is something you really want, download one of the spreadsheets or the dictionary file from the discord bot, they use a custom font to display the glyphs, so if you don't have that installed, it will just look like English words followed by gibberish characters. Again, it isn't a full list of all possible words, we don't have that (I'm not even sure it is possible to create based on my understanding of how the game generates words), but it will get you a pretty long list (400+ so far if you count synonym and plurality entries individually).
lievileve May 18, 2019 @ 12:39am 
I keep my hand written dictionary on my desk, it's filling up nicely :)
Chris May 20, 2019 @ 6:09am 
Its actually the other way around. I want to see a list of ancient words without the english translations. The language has a clear grammar and being able to see all words with a given structure at the same time will help to understand that grammar. My ideal would be that I would have a list with just the words I know so I am not "cheating". At the moment if I want to find all words that start with a given symbol I need to just look through every inscription pretty much which is a frankly terrible way to have to do it.

What I don't want to do is spoiler myself by seeing translations for words I've not yet encountered and preferably by not seeing words in ancient that I've not yet encountered. The latter is reaslistically only possible through an ingame thing or by making it myself. The latter I've been loath to do because my handwriting is bad enough in english that I suspect a handwritten one would be pretty useless. That having been said if I can get hold of the font that they use then I can create my own dictionary easily enough on computer so I may look into that...
hardcases Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:02am 
It's possible to do a screen capture of individual words (using Windows_key - Shift - S), paste the word in Word or other document manager and play around with translations off-line and outside of the game.
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