Ostalgie: The Berlin Wall

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Making powerful CSO and USSR endings?
I'm having trouble making the CSO alliance stronger than the warsaw pact. I'm able to get many trade partners and memberse to the new CMEA, but still have not grasped how to make the CSO strong. Does anyone have good advice on how I should make sure that the CSO becomes powerful?

Another question I want to ask is about the USSR endings. I'm unable to get Comrade P and Comrade L as president of the USSR, what kind of path I should take so that either one of them becomes the president?
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Cally Apr 7, 2018 @ 5:39am 
Comrade P I've gotten a few times. Not sure entirely what triggers it, but in games where I got it, I tried to stay more or less communist with maybe one election. Support the conservatives every year in the USSR, and when the USSR gets the "they are going to pull soldiers out of East Europe" option at the near end, pick "Contact Soviet generals to stall this plan." You don't want the USSR to get so bad that the State Committee on the State of Emergency comes in. However, the Baltic states must try to get their independence. You may have to attack Yeltsin.
DasMudPie Apr 7, 2018 @ 5:51am 
To get a strong CSO, it is necessary to avoid further liberalizations in the former WP countries, because they will only join the CSO if your diplomatic reputation is equal or lower than their own. Inviting Yugoslavia and Albania into the alliance will also help.
Axa Apr 7, 2018 @ 6:14am 
If Poland goes green (liberalizes) then you can go to Kadarism yourself. Then the Poles, Hungarians, etc. will join you when you form the CSO. Together with Yugoslavia & Albania that makes seven states in total.

As for Pugo and Lebed, I believe it's determined by the "Soyuz" in the USSR rating (under situations). For example, I got Lebed when it was in the 30's. Pugo when it was about 80+.

For a strong USSR, support conservatives and give them loans - that raises the soyuz strength by 1%. Support the socialist world, oppose Yeltsin. It's easiest if you don't form your own military pact or economic pact.
Ernst Cornell Apr 7, 2018 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Axa:
Pugo and Lebed
those huge spoilers though
(jk)
Last edited by Ernst Cornell; Apr 7, 2018 @ 7:28am
@Axa, Thank you for advice! I played game as Romania and constantly kept giving USSR loans and made sure the souyz does not drop below 80, and in the end I got Pugo finally as the President of the USSR! Now I need to figure out how to make the souyz drop to 30 and keep it there for the Lebed presidency.

What comes to the CSO, in other playthrough I reformed to kadarism and got all WPO members in to the CSO, but then the stability of the socialist camp started to detoriate fast after the USSR began collapsing and after I invited China in to the New CMEA, Albania, Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia left the CSO. Is there any way to prevent this happening?
Last edited by CRISTIANO RONALDO; Apr 7, 2018 @ 7:55am
DasMudPie Apr 7, 2018 @ 7:43am 
Help them by sending money and military aid. Intervene in world events to save the socialist camp. Completing intelligence research will also give you the option to help the socialist camp, which increases its stability.
Axa Apr 7, 2018 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by ERICH HONECKER ☭:
What comes to the CSO, in other playthrough I reformed to kadarism and got all WPO members in to the CSO, but then the stability of the socialist camp started to detoriate fast after the USSR began collapsing and after I invited China in to the New CMEA, Albania, Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia left the CSO. Is there any way to prevent this happening?

Stuff like supporting the RAF, Afghanistan, sending help to Yugoslavia strengthens the socialist camp. You absolutely must make sure the camp stays strong. If countries start liberalizing, do everything in your power to stop or stabilize the situation. Otherwise it causes a domino effect and the collapse of the socialist block, as you've noticed.
CRISTIANO RONALDO Apr 7, 2018 @ 10:10am 
Alright, I will aim to keep it high at all times.
CRISTIANO RONALDO Apr 7, 2018 @ 12:40pm 
@Axa, Thank you for the given advice! I was able to balance out my support to the USSR in such manner that the Soyuz was at slightly above 30, which gave me Lebed as President of USSR, and I was able to make strong CSO as well after successfully keeping the socialist camp stability high.
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