"7,62mm"

[steelshark_83]

Are there plans to incorporate more ammunition calibers? Right now AK and M14 for example use the same "7,62mm", which in real life they don't.

[Melamori]

We are not planning for this

[IRDCAM]

Consider it a type rather than an individual round. In game you have...7.62X25, 7.62X39, 7.62X51, 7.62X54R, so just look at it as a type of 7.62 round. A lot of 'info' to slow a program otherwise.

[Koren Gagin]

What i think he is getting at all modern AK variants uses 5.45mm rounds...

[steelshark_83]

Then why not handwave it, and call it "Small arms ammo" or something? The damage values are all over the place compared to what kind of muzzle energy the weapons have in real life :/.
Didn't really like this in far cry either.

edit:
@Koren: I'm getting at: AK47 uses 7.62x39mm, M14 uses 7.62x51. Two ver different calibers. And M14 should do more Damage per shot, since it has much more muzzle energy. The Damage values seem very, very "gamey", and for no apparent reason.

[Koren Gagin]

well i think the Devs are less worried about realistic ammo types, and yeah they are gamy since the M14 is kinda ♥♥♥♥ imho in the game.

[Thypoon]

just wait for mods lol

[steelshark_83]

Originally posted by Thypoon:

just wait for mods lol

This I guess haha

[古明地觉]

that really does not make sense.

[IRDCAM]

The full sized rifle cartridge, the 7.62X51 NATO, yes has twice the range and hitting power of the small cased 7.62X39 intermediate cartridge. The M-14 was famous for it's hitting power and long ranged accuracy, but was phased out early with the advent of the M-16. The M-14 was brought back into the 'sand pile' wars of late, and is doing quite well.

Getting hit with any cartridge is not a 'shake it off' if not killed outright, you can wound the 'bad guy' and he pops up ready to go again no matter what cartridge used, where IRL a 45% wound means he is not getting up, and motivation is lost.....MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[nephilimnexus]

Originally posted by Thypoon:

just wait for mods lol

Indeed, I can't wait for some Jagged Alliance veterans to get their hands on the mod tools. They'll have us using HK-G11s in no time and all the guns will get their real names and correct ammunition types.

I suspect what has happened here is that the devs felt that convenience was better than realism, because (as JA vets know) when you go with max realism for ammo types then simply keeping track of all the variety of bullets that your army might need would require a professional accountant. Consider just how many weapons already in this game use (in real life) obscure ammunition - such as the Vintorez. Subsonic 9x39mm? That's not something you're going to find at your local WalMart, that's for certain.

But yeah, seeing the same bullets used in an AK47 as a Mosin Nagant makes me grit my teeth.

Originally posted by Cpt. Crunch (SAG):

Getting hit with any cartridge is not a 'shake it off' if not killed outright, you can wound the 'bad guy' and he pops up ready to go again no matter what cartridge used, where IRL a 45% wound means he is not getting up, and motivation is lost.....MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Indeed, and even if their body armor stops the bullet entirely they're still going to feel the pain. I'm sure we all remember this scene...