Tavern - How To?

[Obihoernchen]

I've built a Tavern in my town as I was close to 400 population. Population since has raised to about 430 people, but any increase seems to take place by birth, not migration as the tooltip keeps telling, there has to be at least one finctional tavern for 400+ population.

I have a reasonable production of Beer and Horilka and additionally I tried to have at least 100 each in storage. The Tavern itself is driven by a family, different goods are for sale there and I see people walking in and out. So what am I doing wrong?

[garyoa1]

Do you have immigration turned on? Do you have enough housing? Do you have mead?

[Obihoernchen]

Yes - everything else is "green"

[kiska87]

So you have a working tavern and people are visiting it, but you still get the warning, that you need a tavern?

I only got a tavern family after I had some alcohol in a market stall for sale (even though it says that they can also buy it directly from a granary). So try to put some beer or horilka in a market stall and see if that helps.

[Obihoernchen]

Did that too, but the warning remains.

[Bjørn]

Alcohol is sold pretty quickly, several thousand per year for 400+ population, I think. You mention you have 100 of each alcohol in stock? The tavern buys alcohol in batches of 100, so that won't last long. You can also import alcohol to top of the stock if you don't produce enough.

The tavern will show as functional when it buys those few hundred alcohol, which takes a few minutes to sell back to the citizens, then it will not be functioning again until it has access to more alcohol. Need constant flow of alcohol!

Also had problems with supplying enough alcohol in my previous game, and often had that message of non-functional tavern several times, also at times when I had 3 taverns, I think (had 5 in the end for 1300+ people). 2 distilleries, 2 breweries, and I also kept importing mead. They drank it all...

In my new game I'm just going to stick with one tavern for as long as possible, I think. Anyone know if you need more than one tavern at higher populations?

[Obihoernchen]

'k, so I'll try to stack up A LOT :-)

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by kiska87:

I only got a tavern family after I had some alcohol in a market stall for sale (even though it says that they can also buy it directly from a granary).

Regarding the last part, I think I saw this in a patch note or something, but had forgotten about the 'granary' part.

When I completed the first tavern in my last game it said there was no alcohol on the market, but I had a lot stored in warehouses. So I sold the alchohol from market stalls as before.

But since they can't buy things from warehouses, only granaries, that was probably why it showed as not on the market, of course!

In short: Thank you for mentioning granary! Going to keep alcohol in granaries in my new game.

Has it always been possible to store alcohol in granaries, btw? I've never stored it in them before.

[frank.dolfen]

In which section can I find the tavern? Can not build it (or I am blind maybe)
Do I need to have a certain amount of people (now 250) to unlock it first?

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by frank.dolfen:

In which section can I find the tavern? Can not build it (or I am blind maybe)
Do I need to have a certain amount of people (now 250) to unlock it first?

It's under the houses category. Maybe not very obvious

All buildings are available from the start, so there is no population need for any, but the other way around. Need some buildings to get the population above certain numbers.

I thought you needed a tavern to get over 200 population, but if you have 250 now I've misunderstood that, so thanks for that! Probably 300 then.

[frank.dolfen]

THX Bjorn