Arachnophobia

[Tay Scribbles]

My friend loves all things small, woodland, and base building and I'm so excited to show them this game! Just one issue -- they have very bad arachnophobia. Will there be settings to filter the appearance of spiders for those who are scared of them?

[Ashar]

my worst is height, i have terrible vertigo, not sure its a phobia, but its close. Many games simulate the same sensation, and it feels jsut as bad as if im near the edge of a cliff or somethign in real life. So games can definetly trigger phobias. Oddly not every game with heights trigger it, its worse if i cant see the bottom.

[hugpete]

K, so… I was bit by a spider and it got infected and then abscessed and I went into shock and had to have surgery and was in the hospital for 4 days. I had a cubic inch of my flesh removed. I can’t even look at pictures of spiders without getting creeped out, and legitimately scream or freeze or both when I see them IRL. Used to not even like the word, my D&D group called them “webworms” or “hard-shelled cave octopuses” because they are awesome, kind, helpful people.

Most of the comments on this thread seem very mean and combative to me. Yes, some people are that afraid of spiders! Yes, even when it’s a game and no ‘real’ threat! My fight or flight (or freeze) response doesn’t know that 🤷🏻‍♀️

Just, like, maybe be kind to people?

[Lfod]

I think the question for me is that should every game account for peoples triggers? People are scared of clowns so should the movie IT have an alternate version that removes the clown? If I had PTSD should every war game make sliders to remove things that would make me uncomfortable? If they remove spiders from games that people fight insects as the enemy then they should change every game to remove all things that would ever trigger some one or people should just find games that don't trigger them.

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lfod:

I think the question for me is that should every game account for peoples triggers? People are scared of clowns so should the movie IT have an alternate version that removes the clown? If I had PTSD should every war game make sliders to remove things that would make me uncomfortable? If they remove spiders from games that people fight insects as the enemy then they should change every game to remove all things that would ever trigger some one or people should just find games that don't trigger them.

are spiders the main thing in the game? or a small part of the big thing? IT is a movie CLEARLY about a killer clown so no removing clowns wouldn't make sense. Every war game's main focus is on war so of course people with PTSD would avoid them too. Not every game is focused on spiders. A Bug's Life is a film about insects and there's maybe like 3 spiders at most in it, so clearly A Bug's Life, a film about insects as good AND bad guys, rarely has spiders in it. So even in a film about insects spiders aren't automatically a big focus and I'm sure people don't even remember more than 1 spider character in that film, so that film could have replaced those spiders with other bug characters and nothing of value would have been lost from it (this is a silly example just to make a point because I know some idiot will take this seriously and try to argue from the main point).

Point is this game's focus is on INSECTS as a whole, not specifically spiders, and so the addition/removal of spiders doesn't change the entire point/dynamic of this game. So it's not really a big deal for those who are afraid of spiders to ask for an option to remove/replace them. What IS weird is all the antis getting into a temper tantrum over some people asking for options. I don't understand your obsession with spiders and how you love them so much that this thread almost popped a blood vessel in you and every other poster that it seems to have ruined your day. What is it about spiders that you are obsessed with that you do mental gymnastics to argue against it, using faulty logic no less?

Also with your logic why aren't you fighting for other insects to be included? you seem to make the point that the game is about insects, as if all insects should be a part of it, but are all insects in the game? are there moths? centipedes? millipedes? butterflies? cockroaches? pillbugs? ladybugs? stag beetles? herculean beetles? praying mantis? orchid mantis? not every insect is in the game, but seems you and others are obsessed with specifically spiders so I'm confused as to why the removal of spiders would ruin the game for you when there's hundreds of other insects that aren't in the game that could replace them anyways.

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av sir d wreck:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

Do you have anything of value to add to the discussion? or are you in girlfriend mode and you just want to argue?

I've already added to the discussion multiple times. And I'm not wrong, you sure are high and mighty, yet also worked up like the ones you are critical of. So yeah, I'd say I added to the discussion by pointing that out to you. You're welcome

You forgot the key word of VALUE, which you haven't as you're just as unreasonable as any other anti having a fit over more options yet acting like I'm "high and mighty" for some reason which delves into the real reason you have tears streaming down your face over my opinions. Funny how you comment "wall of text" while not being able to counter my points so you act like you already have everything figured out. Cope harder I'm not here to spoonfeed you compliments to advocate for my side go to twitter for that.

[TamanduaGirl]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

are there moths? centipedes? millipedes? butterflies? cockroaches? pillbugs? ladybugs? stag beetles? herculean beetles? praying mantis? orchid mantis?

Several of those actually are in the game. Seeing you listed several things in the game as not being in the game, some even in the trailer, I don't think you were ever actually interested in the game at this point.

[sir d wreck]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

Opprinnelig skrevet av sir d wreck:

I've already added to the discussion multiple times. And I'm not wrong, you sure are high and mighty, yet also worked up like the ones you are critical of. So yeah, I'd say I added to the discussion by pointing that out to you. You're welcome

You forgot the key word of VALUE, which you haven't as you're just as unreasonable as any other anti having a fit over more options yet acting like I'm "high and mighty" for some reason which delves into the real reason you have tears streaming down your face over my opinions. Funny how you comment "wall of text" while not being able to counter my points so you act like you already have everything figured out. Cope harder I'm not here to spoonfeed you compliments to advocate for my side go to twitter for that.

Yeah you didn't contribute much either. What I'm saying is we're both guilty, but you think you're better than others. Get over yourself.

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TamanduaGirl:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

are there moths? centipedes? millipedes? butterflies? cockroaches? pillbugs? ladybugs? stag beetles? herculean beetles? praying mantis? orchid mantis?

Several of those actually are in the game. Seeing you listed several things in the game as not being in the game, some even in the trailer, I don't think you were ever actually interested in the game at this point.

I mentioned random insects to prove a point but clearly now you're going to make me look up which insects are specifically not in the game because it seems you can't function correctly and attack the argument itself which is sad.

Also seeing your pfp I can make the argument that you're not arguing in good faith either, and you have some odd obsession with spiders which is why you're fighting tooth and nail against my point as if this was some serious discussion that has potential to ruin your favorite game.

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av sir d wreck:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

You forgot the key word of VALUE, which you haven't as you're just as unreasonable as any other anti having a fit over more options yet acting like I'm "high and mighty" for some reason which delves into the real reason you have tears streaming down your face over my opinions. Funny how you comment "wall of text" while not being able to counter my points so you act like you already have everything figured out. Cope harder I'm not here to spoonfeed you compliments to advocate for my side go to twitter for that.

Yeah you didn't contribute much either. What I'm saying is we're both guilty, but you think you're better than others. Get over yourself.

Except I did, as someone with arachnophobia who is telling the devs this mode they added is bad and why, but you can't see that because you're too busy crying about me somehow acting better than others when I'm not. Maybe develop a thicker skin and don't get so offended that I criticized your favorite game in the world.

[TamanduaGirl]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TamanduaGirl:

Several of those actually are in the game. Seeing you listed several things in the game as not being in the game, some even in the trailer, I don't think you were ever actually interested in the game at this point.

I mentioned random insects to prove a point but clearly now you're going to make me look up which insects are specifically not in the game because it seems you can't function correctly and attack the argument itself which is sad.

Also seeing your pfp I can make the argument that you're not arguing in good faith either, and you have some odd obsession with spiders which is why you're fighting tooth and nail against my point as if this was some serious discussion that has potential to ruin your favorite game.

Well I had electric dragon profile for a long time but so many people use that so I changed to the cute spider from the cute spider game since no one else I've seen has that. They're cute little things that dance and even wear bows and skateboard. Wouldn't say I had an obsession for either species. Not that that's a bad thing. Plenty of people collect pony figurines. I don't but I'm cool with it, their pony obsession harms no one.

Hopefully they change it's face along with the legs if a lot of people find that scary but I don't think being mean and abrasive helps the cause at all. I asked for a single player pause feature since it's very much needed due to how my life is. But I've not yelled at anyone or called them names for it not being a feature yet.

[Secret]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sleek:

I have a phobia of snakes, I passout if i get near one and cant control it obviously, when i see one in game i don't feel anything because the threat isn't real. Being scared and having a phobia is two completely different things and the people who complain about spiders in games are just looking for attention and special treatment. Its not even how a phobia works...

same thing almost. i become paralyzed if i see an actual snake, if i see one in a game i just say to myself "lazy ass dev".

[Lfod]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lfod:

I think the question for me is that should every game account for peoples triggers? People are scared of clowns so should the movie IT have an alternate version that removes the clown? If I had PTSD should every war game make sliders to remove things that would make me uncomfortable? If they remove spiders from games that people fight insects as the enemy then they should change every game to remove all things that would ever trigger some one or people should just find games that don't trigger them.

are spiders the main thing in the game? or a small part of the big thing? IT is a movie CLEARLY about a killer clown so no removing clowns wouldn't make sense. Every war game's main focus is on war so of course people with PTSD would avoid them too. Not every game is focused on spiders. A Bug's Life is a film about insects and there's maybe like 3 spiders at most in it, so clearly A Bug's Life, a film about insects as good AND bad guys, rarely has spiders in it. So even in a film about insects spiders aren't automatically a big focus and I'm sure people don't even remember more than 1 spider character in that film, so that film could have replaced those spiders with other bug characters and nothing of value would have been lost from it (this is a silly example just to make a point because I know some idiot will take this seriously and try to argue from the main point).

Point is this game's focus is on INSECTS as a whole, not specifically spiders, and so the addition/removal of spiders doesn't change the entire point/dynamic of this game. So it's not really a big deal for those who are afraid of spiders to ask for an option to remove/replace them. What IS weird is all the antis getting into a temper tantrum over some people asking for options. I don't understand your obsession with spiders and how you love them so much that this thread almost popped a blood vessel in you and every other poster that it seems to have ruined your day. What is it about spiders that you are obsessed with that you do mental gymnastics to argue against it, using faulty logic no less?

Also with your logic why aren't you fighting for other insects to be included? you seem to make the point that the game is about insects, as if all insects should be a part of it, but are all insects in the game? are there moths? centipedes? millipedes? butterflies? cockroaches? pillbugs? ladybugs? stag beetles? herculean beetles? praying mantis? orchid mantis? not every insect is in the game, but seems you and others are obsessed with specifically spiders so I'm confused as to why the removal of spiders would ruin the game for you when there's hundreds of other insects that aren't in the game that could replace them anyways.

Apiphobia – The fear of bees. Better make a slider for that as well.
Aquaphobia – The fear of water. Better make a slider for that as well.
Astraphobia – The fear of thunder/lightning better make it so you can remove the thunder sound.
Agoraphobia – The fear of open or crowded spaces. How do you even make a slider for this.
Allodoxaphobia – The fear of opinions. You might want to check to see if you have this.
Atychiphobia – The fear of failure. They have a peaceful mode no worries for this.
Basiphobia – The fear of falling. Better make a mode where you don't fall.
Bathophobia – The fear of depths can be anything associated with depth (lakes, tunnels, caves). Better remove all those little caves in the game mode.
Cibophobia – The fear of food. Need to make a mode that doesn't require eating.
Entomophobia – The fear of bugs and insects well you only care about Acrophobia so we can tell these people to find another game?
Ergophobia – The fear of work. Wheres m sandbox mode?
Gamophobia – The fear of commitment or sticking with someone to the end. Single player for the win.
Koumpounophobia – The fear of buttons. They probably don't play games so no worries.
Lepidopterophobia – The fear of butterflies and often most winged insects. We can't leave these people out it wouldn't be right.
Monophobia – The fear of being alone. Multiplayer for the win.
Myrmecophobia – The fear of ants. Don't know why these people don't chime into the discussion.
Nyctophobia – The fear of darkness.
Ombrophobia – The fear of rain.
Somniphobia – The fear of sleep.
Thanatophobia – The fear of death.

I don't think you will get the point I am trying to make but you really can't build every game around people with phobias. Spiders are ugly and some of them can kill you, everyone should be afraid of spiders to some degree. It's part of human instinct for a reason. Plus I think a lot of people running around saying they are arachnophobic but not a lot of people want to be hanging out or being near spiders in reality.

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TamanduaGirl:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TheShadowHatter:

I mentioned random insects to prove a point but clearly now you're going to make me look up which insects are specifically not in the game because it seems you can't function correctly and attack the argument itself which is sad.

Also seeing your pfp I can make the argument that you're not arguing in good faith either, and you have some odd obsession with spiders which is why you're fighting tooth and nail against my point as if this was some serious discussion that has potential to ruin your favorite game.

Well I had electric dragon profile for a long time but so many people use that so I changed to the cute spider from the cute spider game since no one else I've seen has that. They're cute little things that dance and even wear bows and skateboard. Wouldn't say I had an obsession for either species. Not that that's a bad thing. Plenty of people collect pony figurines. I don't but I'm cool with it, their pony obsession harms no one.

Hopefully they change it's face along with the legs if a lot of people find that scary but I don't think being mean and abrasive helps the cause at all. I asked for a single player pause feature since it's very much needed due to how my life is. But I've not yelled at anyone or called them names for it not being a feature yet.

I dont either. I only ever insulted or called names people who are being purposely dismissive or making fun of people for having the phobia. I expressed anger at the devs because their version of it felt like an insult, and then another poster implies that the devs were making a joke, which if they were then that's pretty rude and insulting to those with phobias who just wanted an option.

@Lfod

Your mistake is being extremely dismissive and almost insulting in your response. People afraid of bees I wouldn't be mad if the devs made a mode for them either because it doesn't personally affect me. The game doesn't somehow get worse because an option I don't use is being used by someone else.

Some of those random phobias are you speaking from ignorance too, like fear of food so your solution is no eating which doesn't eliminate the fear of food existing or whatever the underlying reason for being afraid of food is, which may not even be about the food itself so showing in a game might not even be an issue for that type of person.

Also it addresses the biggest issue I have with antis using your argument. How many threads are there of phobic people asking for changes in the game other than spiders? NOBODY from that big list of phobias is making threads asking for options in the game so why bring them up? Its not as it arachnophobia is legally preventing people from posting about their phobias until the spider conflict is resolved. Those people can post here if they want but they dont because those phobias aren't as black and white as you're making them out to be. There's a spectrum of ways these phobias affect people but you're not caring about those specifics because you want to make a flawd point.

[kitty1317]

yeahhhh even max setting still triggers my phobia... still so realistic even without the legs. if it had no face and mouth, texture change or something would be much better... i can deal with spider like creatures if they are not realistic to irl. I've gotten lil better with it but those spiders are way too realistic and trigger it so bad ;-;

[TheShadowHatter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av kitty1317:

yeahhhh even max setting still triggers my phobia... still so realistic even without the legs. if it had no face and mouth, texture change or something would be much better... i can deal with spider like creatures if they are not realistic to irl. I've gotten lil better with it but those spiders are way too realistic and trigger it so bad ;-;

Exactly. Like I can deal with most spiders in fantasy games like Skyrim and such but when they're too realistic its too much. Hogwarts Legacy is a perfect example where 99% of spiders in that game dont bother me, but the Absconder/Acromantula bothers me because it looks realistic.