what knockback do ?

[narf03]

does it just push the enemy 1 tile back ? thats all ?
does it cause the unit 1 action point to stand up or are there any additional advantage with knockback ?

[jep]

It just knocks them back, which can be very helpful for knocking them out of cover so your other stalkers have a good shot on them.

Also, it keeps med-bots from resurrecting downed enemies.

[Emil]

Originally posted by jep:

It just knocks them back, which can be very helpful for knocking them out of cover so your other stalkers have a good shot on them.

Also, it keeps med-bots from resurrecting downed enemies.

This, you can also use it to knock enemies down from highground.

[narf03]

Originally posted by Slappiz:

Originally posted by jep:

It just knocks them back, which can be very helpful for knocking them out of cover so your other stalkers have a good shot on them.

Also, it keeps med-bots from resurrecting downed enemies.

This, you can also use it to knock enemies down from highground.

doing no additional damage ? most of the enemy can just jump from low ground, so its 1 additional point of movement.

[jep]

It does additional damage, but sometimes it's buggy and doesn't.

I will say I've hardly ever had an opportunity to use it to knock someone off in 1 and 1/2 playthroughs. Just hard to be in the right place at the right time.

[Biribiri]

Originally posted by jep:

It just knocks them back, which can be very helpful for knocking them out of cover so your other stalkers have a good shot on them.

Also, it keeps med-bots from resurrecting downed enemies.

honestly the thought of knocking medbots from healing is probably one of the best reasons to have it in handy

[Emil]

Originally posted by Biribiri:

honestly the thought of knocking medbots from healing is probably one of the best reasons to have it in handy

Yeah, espically early before you can disable the med-bots effectivly with emp or abilites.

[Arkhein]

It also stops Nova Sect psykers from controlling your crew, which is amusing since the enemy will put your dominated unit in a good spot very often, thus flanking themselves when you regain control

[Ash]

Knocked down chars spend 1 AP to get back on their feet, so Gaper and weapon mod are useful on melee units like dogs, butchers and medbots - if you kite and shoot them, they will run to you, but will be unable to attack. Alas, kiting with a Gaper is kinda hard due to its abysmal range. +30% range weapon mod and Eagle Eye passive mutation do help, though.

[jonnin]

I think the real uses are
- knock out of cover
- stop heal (rare shot, most medbots can be taken before the big battle)
- knock into fire (rare shot but use enemy pyro against them)
-knock down a level (never used this, seems like a rare shot)
- make them get back up

[jep]

Originally posted by Ash:

Knocked down chars spend 1 AP to get back on their feet, so Gaper and weapon mod are useful on melee units like dogs, butchers and medbots - if you kite and shoot them, they will run to you, but will be unable to attack. Alas, kiting with a Gaper is kinda hard due to its abysmal range. +30% range weapon mod and Eagle Eye passive mutation do help, though.

Huh, I never noticed the AP reduction. There is a later weapon and mod with knockback, IIRC.

[Ash]

Originally posted by jep:

Huh, I never noticed the AP reduction. There is a later weapon and mod with knockback, IIRC.

Find a lone butcher. Stand near him in the walk range - he'll run to you and attack. Now walk away and knock him back - he'll get up, run to you, but will not attack.

Mod is good, but 30% isn't that reliable on single shot weapons. Energy 'shotgun' is quite powerful, but it's kinda late - when you're able to get it, your skills and silenced guns give you ability to stealth kill meaty enemies, so butchers became medkits and skill recharges instead of threat.

[Texus]

Originally posted by narf03:

does it just push the enemy 1 tile back ? thats all ?
does it cause the unit 1 action point to stand up or are there any additional advantage with knockback ?

I noticed some already said it, but so far I only noticed that it's good for knocking some enemies down from a higher place which will cause them to get fall damage and to interrup med bots.

[Proper Skux]

It knocks med bots off their channel.

It knocks opponents clear of cover or even through their cover if it's breakable.