Please explain to me...

[justadude]

How I am suppose to kill muliple enemies that are at my level, but have 3 times the health I do? Yes, I pick them off one by one, but it leads to scumsaving when.

[ender_wiggins]

The Standart Enemy got max 2times your HP and no Armor so easy kill with 3 People and Stealth Weapons .
And its not a Shooter you are not Supposed to kill the entire Map in on massive
Firefight ^^

[justadude]

Fair enough and thank you. I was already doing this btw. The reason for my post is that I am now underleveled(red Skull) for enemies in the storyline. So I have no other option to try and get in massive firefights to try and level. I try to pick off single enemies, but with 30 hps I can hardly take them down in one round with levl 2 weapons before they alert the others.

[Gacktdirge17]

seems like you didn't maxed silent weapons as top priority, use your mutations to help stealth like Bormin charge to get an extra turn or reflex shot to burst someone. I also use emp grenades on robot patrols to guarantee a silent kill.

[ender_wiggins]

There are some Offbranching Maps to get the level you need for the Mainstory.
There is Eqipment too and Artifacts.
Dont forget to Upgrade your Silent Weapons they are the most needed Weapons,you can scrap some of the weapons you have not Equipt to get some Weaponparts.
I did this in the first 1/3 of the Game after you looted some new Weapons the Stingers can be scrapted they dont give mutch parts but i helps.

[justadude]

Thank you for your replies. I leveled all weapons using points that could have gotten silenced weapons to 3 along the way. Since non silenced weapons are mainly for show and not really useful I wasted my points. Sadly the game shoehorns you into this playstyle after giving you several winnable scenarios using all weapons.

I have been going around the map looking for ways to level and have been able to clear all but two zones due to the fact that I am facing 7-8 enemies with 2.5 to 3 times the health I have.

he game is really well done and fun to play, sadly however it seems to be more puzzle game than actual tactics.

[Guy]

You need to pick off whoever you can on the map first with Silent Weapons. The hog knock can help too, you get a free round to shoot again.

[old.school]

Originally posted by justadude:

Thank you for your replies. I leveled all weapons using points that could have gotten silenced weapons to 3 along the way. Since non silenced weapons are mainly for show and not really useful I wasted my points. Sadly the game shoehorns you into this playstyle after giving you several winnable scenarios using all weapons.

I have been going around the map looking for ways to level and have been able to clear all but two zones due to the fact that I am facing 7-8 enemies with 2.5 to 3 times the health I have.

he game is really well done and fun to play, sadly however it seems to be more puzzle game than actual tactics.

Nobody said it yet so i'm going to say it. Stop thinking of encounters in this game as your level vs their level or how much health you have vs how much health they have. Levels can give you an indicator but not always. And the enemies will always have more health than you even if you are the same level. I was level 25 i think and i took out a pack of 3 level 45 dogs. I've gone up against a Chieftain, 2 dogs, a pyro and a butcher who were i think 2-3 levels higher than me with no problems. How? i started the fight and since i had the advantage and had first turn i threw 3 frag grenades and killed the pyro, 2 dogs and butcher without giving any of them a chance to do anything and it took me a turn and a half to kill the Chief, and i was able to kill a medbot that was coming in to res a friendly.

You have a lot more advantages than they do. You can initiate combat first giving you advantages in positioning and cover. You have abilities which can boost your damage or as someone mentioned with Hog Rush can be used to CC your enemy. If you are having trouble now then name the encounter that you are having issues with. Name the groups and their composition and how much health each one has, how many patrols there are and where it is in game.

[PlevisVesel]

I'm guessing you don't use Boar rush to stun your enemies for two turns, thus allowing you to kill a 30HP enemy quite easily

[Xuhybrid]

High cover gives -75% chance to hit you.

[Vultan]

Funnel enemy into groups and use grenades. Pulling 4 enemies should be doable if you have highground. Emp, root and boar charge can be used to stun enemies for one turn so you can "manage" several enemies at the same time.

If you play on very easy boar charge should be off cooldown every fight.

[PlevisVesel]

Originally posted by Biceps Horsemangler:

Funnel enemy into groups and use grenades. Pulling 4 enemies should be doable if you have highground. Emp, root and boar charge can be used to stun enemies for one turn so you can "manage" several enemies at the same time.

If you play on very easy boar charge should be off cooldown every fight.

Root doesn't stun. Ranged enemies can still shoot. So make sure you only root melee enemies

[johnttwo]

kill big bots when you find them there are three before you get to the last boss they drop 27/ 35/ 40 weapon parts between the three

[Bubblegum]

With most roaming enemies there is a point in their path where you can stand as far away from other enemies that you can safely use non silent weapons, and so long as you kill them in the first round noone else will be alerted.

[jep]

Originally posted by PlevisVesel:

Originally posted by Biceps Horsemangler:

Funnel enemy into groups and use grenades. Pulling 4 enemies should be doable if you have highground. Emp, root and boar charge can be used to stun enemies for one turn so you can "manage" several enemies at the same time.

If you play on very easy boar charge should be off cooldown every fight.

Root doesn't stun. Ranged enemies can still shoot. So make sure you only root melee enemies

I don't think the poster is saying that, though. You root one guy so he can't run off, and stun the other with Hog Rush. Then you can concentrate on killing the standing one while the other is on the ground.

[Gearhart]

For the most part the groups of enemies can be broken up, its all about sight circles. with the exception of maybe 2 fights so far ive been able to take groups on 1 guy at a time.

I will agree though that there seem to be very few instances where going "loud" is the way to do things. Also remember that tank enemies (who suck beyond all belief) are immune to Hog Rush.