Where do I find - Efficient Photovoltaics blueprints so I can upgrade my solar panels?

[MrTorque777]

Hey Guys! Where do I find the efficient Photovoltaic blueprint so I can upgrade my solar panels? I have searched almost 10 empty habitats and still can't locate the blueprint tablet. I got 5 upgrade points but can't use them as I stuck because of this blueprint? Please help

[x-arioch]

Първоначално публикувано от BIO:

Първоначално публикувано от MrTorque777:

Hey Guys! Where do I find the efficient Photovoltaic blueprint so I can upgrade my solar panels? I have searched almost 10 empty habitats and still can't locate the blueprint tablet. I got 5 upgrade points but can't use them as I stuck because of this blueprint? Please help

15 points in electricty for me before get the medium solar panel blueprint, and i've done around 5 save reload with 5 tablets try, and then.. 30min later i finally had it haha don't be mad it's damn hard to got it, but it give around x6 more power with all others skills

I am at 11 and still haven't found it ( I also don't have the rover ). The RNG for tablets, and mining resources needs some bounding to make it less punishing. I also had a horrible time finding aluminum in my early game, and now I am living in a world that has no silicon.

In its current state, this game is unplayable.

[McMatty]

Venture further. You will find it. Takes some logistical planning and time.

[longword]

Първоначално публикувано от x-arioch:

I am at 11 and still haven't found it ( I also don't have the rover ).

Just checking, you've at least got the ATV, right? Either the fixed up one or (50% faster) one you made yourself?

[Recktogar]

That's what I am doing but still no luck xd.

I am now on 18 Electricity points with all previous discoveries researched and finding all kind of seeds etc but still didn't get it, while I got ones like Industrial Energy Stage 2 and Battery Printing. I feel like I am stuck on the energy side of things cause I already have many small solars which are a pain to keep up with... considering last two weather events were a sandstorm and a tornado :(.

But gonna keep trying :D

In the meantime, I thought of a better suggestion than my previous ones. How about the tablet discoveries are grouped in pools.

Example: First set of tablets will only unlock (randomly) discoveries that form part of a finite pool of discoveries, the so-called starting level ones. Once this pool of discoveries is exhausted, the tablets will start unlocking discoveries from a higher-tier pool of discoveries until these are exhausted. And repeat with improving Tech with each pool. Pool size should be substantial to keep the randomness feel but should not be too large as this problem would persist, but maybe not as pronounced as it is now. It also seems the easiest to implement without the need in changing anything from the current Tech tree.

[woenk]

Първоначално публикувано от Recktogar:

That's what I am doing but still no luck xd.

I am now on 18 Electricity points with all previous discoveries researched and finding all kind of seeds etc but still didn't get it, while I got ones like Industrial Energy Stage 2 and Battery Printing. I feel like I am stuck on the energy side of things cause I already have many small solars which are a pain to keep up with... considering last two weather events were a sandstorm and a tornado :(.

But gonna keep trying :D

In the meantime, I thought of a better suggestion than my previous ones. How about the tablet discoveries are grouped in pools.

Example: First set of tablets will only unlock discoveries that form part of a finite pool of discoveries, the so-called starting level ones. Once this pool of discoveries is exhausted, the tablets will start unlocking discoveries from a higher-tier pool of discoveries until these are exhausted. And repeat with improving Tech with each pool. Pool size should be substantial to keep the randomness feel but should not be too large as this problem would persist, but maybe not as pronounced as it is now. It also seems the easiest to implement without the need in changing anything from the current Tech tree.

How many tablets have you stored up right now ?
Have you tried each individual one and are they really say that you have reasearched everything ?

[Recktogar]

Sorry I wasn't clear with my words when I said 'all previous discoveries researched' I meant only the ones for the Electricity group and the ones prior to the efficient Photovoltaic research.

I am not counting tablets I open them immediately but should be a lot.

I still have more tablets to find and hunt though; so I am sure I will get efficient Photovoltaic research eventually. Just wanted to point out current tablet discovery system needs to be improved because as it is it defeats the sense of progression, especially if you get this unlucky like me :(

[woenk]

Първоначално публикувано от Recktogar:

Sorry I wasn't clear with my words when I said 'all previous discoveries researched' I meant only the ones for the Electricity group and the ones prior to the efficient Photovoltaic research.

I am not counting tablets I open them immediately but should be a lot.

I still have more tablets to find and hunt though; so I am sure I will get efficient Photovoltaic research eventually. Just wanted to point out current tablet discovery system needs to be improved because as it is it defeats the sense of progression, especially if you get this unlucky like me :(

Since there are not that many researchable things where one needs a tablet (allways depending on ones point of view :D ) , I thought you are stuck with just that one and have massed a dozen other tablets you have already found (which would mean it is a bug).
Take your rover out to a 10-20 Sol trip, grind any base you find to dust (without bothering to go through it to find something, will drop to the ground anyway after the grind) and you will surely have enough tablets afterwards to unlock half of the chemistry tech tree when it is opened.
Not absolutely sure anymore, but I do not remember getting medium panels before I had the rover and grinder 3 . And since there are some pre-requisites between the techtrees, I would almost assume the devs may have hidden some "hidden" ones as well :D

As for "sense of progession" ..... "Baby you aint seen nothin yet".....would be quite a boring game if one would have everything within the first 100 hours.

[denman516]

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I get a sense that some blueprints almost needed others to be acquired first before they randomly showed up (or are super rare?). I too save scummed to try and get the medium panels but after a long time gave up. Later after a long hike of hitting base after base after base I just kinda got it. No amount of save scumming got me it earlier so idk.

At least you can find them. I have searched every base within 10000 meters of my base now that I have the jetpack and there are none to be found anymore. I find every thing else just not blueprints

[denman516]

Първоначално публикувано от mcmw:

Seems for me the Gameplay is over until some Solution to this. Right now im stuck with the last Tablet i could find within the reach of my atv. Reloading the Game over and over to get that efficient Photovoltaic Blueprint out of it... About 50+ reloads, no luck yet.

At least you can find them still. I have got to the "2nd" tier of all research except for night vision I am still looking for. I have the jetpack and have searched every base within 10000 meters of my base and have not found a tablet in many many many many bases I searched

[longword]

Първоначално публикувано от denman516:

At least you can find them still. I have got to the "2nd" tier of all research except for night vision I am still looking for. I have the jetpack and have searched every base within 10000 meters of my base and have not found a tablet in many many many many bases I searched

While you're standing outside your next abandoned base, before you step inside, save and reload. Keep using the Z key to scan and watch below your feet.

[woenk]

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At least you can find them still. I have got to the "2nd" tier of all research except for night vision I am still looking for. I have the jetpack and have searched every base within 10000 meters of my base and have not found a tablet in many many many many bases I searched

While you're standing outside your next abandoned base, before you step inside, save and reload. Keep using the Z key to scan and watch below your feet.

Why even step inside ? Grind it to dush and anything in it will fall to the ground.
Never had a tablet below my feet, really rarely had them above me hanging in the air.
Rover and grinder 3 should be the things to strife for before the medium solar panels.
Eben just a rover without container has way more storage than one yould carry with just the ATV and the boxes on it and one even gets a bed for sleeping, so no need to build a capsule.
And without grinder 3 one might look thorugh a base and find nothing which suddenly pops out when grinding it down (don't know where it hid, but I had searched it thouroughly).
I simply do not see the use of wasting time by searching when I can find the sutff in less time when I simply grind the structures down and have way more building materials.
Or does it really make sense to get medium panels and then spend hours on mining because you need all the materials to build them for the 3d printer ? :D

[Antipatico]

Unfortunately this tablet is a big problem, I also have several blocked technology points, both in Electricity and Botany, not being able to progress generates a lot of frustration.
I hope a solution is released soon, I have like many, I will be forced to suspend the game, which I add I like it very much!

[woenk]

Първоначално публикувано от Antipatico:

Unfortunately this tablet is a big problem, I also have several blocked technology points, both in Electricity and Botany, not being able to progress generates a lot of frustration.
I hope a solution is released soon, I have like many, I will be forced to suspend the game, which I add I like it very much!

Why do you need it right now ? AFAIK there are only 48 unique tablets in game, simply visit 4 dozen bases with an ? on the map and you have them all. Make the expedetions with a rover and a container on it and you will never need to do any expeditions again, because you have enough materials to build several medium sized bases.

If you really desperately need more energy simply build more panels and storage.
Game is easy enough the way it is, so easy that some even started it in freemode at madman level and they still do not find it that challenging.

[longword]

Първоначално публикувано от woenk:

AFAIK there are only 48 unique tablets in game

The tablets themselves are not unique, they're completely fungible. It's only at the point when you use one that a blueprint is selected at random to be unlocked from that tablet. Before you use the tablet there's no link between that tablet and any particular blueprint.

[woenk]

Първоначално публикувано от longword:

Първоначално публикувано от woenk:

AFAIK there are only 48 unique tablets in game

The tablets themselves are not unique, they're completely fungible. It's only at the point when you use one that a blueprint is selected at random to be unlocked from that tablet. Before you use the tablet there's no link between that tablet and any particular blueprint.

With unique I meant that it is not like you will find the same tablet again.