Pump Station

[Freidenker]

Can someone explain the basics of the Pump Station? For example: I connected a well to the pump station and then connected the pump station to the workshop, what's the difference than connecting the well to the workshop directly? I see that from the pump station you can control how much water is sent to the workshop, but I wonder if it's on demand? Or is it like electricity that if sent in excess to what the workshop uses the surplus is lost?

[Krapht]

The biggest thing is that you can connect up to 3 wells to a pump station while the workshop only has one input for water. I also like to use it to refill water since it has 3 outputs. This way I don't have to mess around with swapping tanks or disconnecting hoses

[KrazieFox]

As my Well with 2x Sabatier & 2x Oxygen Tanks only produces 1.7 into the Pump Station I’m thinking 3x the setup should produce approx 4 oxygen in the pump to send to Workshop. Not sure I really need the Pump for Water, though. 🤔

[WildDogsGaming]

Originally posted by KrazieFox:

As my Well with 2x Sabatier & 2x Oxygen Tanks only produces 1.7 into the Pump Station I’m thinking 3x the setup should produce approx 4 oxygen in the pump to send to Workshop. Not sure I really need the Pump for Water, though. 🤔

lol, oh you will.

[tmtc]

I Use the below method

Well > Pump > Storage > Pump > Building

I really need a pump extension.

[WildDogsGaming]

What is the 2nd pump for? You don't need to connect a well to every part of the building. As long as the buildings are connected, connecting the storage to 1 part of the building will automatically feed the other attached buildings.

[[GOO]The_Happy_Hostage]

I needed 2 pumps so I could have 2 water pipes and 2 O2 pipes merging into my workshop.

[Steppenrazor]

pump stations can do any input / out put.

the color changes depending on what its hooks up to..

you can have 3 water going into one pump if you want. (and/or 3 water coming out if you want.)

[Freidenker]

Originally posted by Steppenrazor:

pump stations can do any input / out put.

the color changes depending on what its hooks up to..

you can have 3 water going into one pump if you want. (and/or 3 water coming out if you want.)

Oh thanks! I didn't know that the color changes depending on the input, I was able to connect the 2 wells to the pump and the pump to the workshop, it works fine! I think the numbers are bugged though, I have to set 600 liter/hour to receive 6 liters/hour in the workshop. Also, at night, without power, the pump is somehow sending water to the workshop, even when the workshop screen panel shows no water is incoming.

[Alfafiles]

Originally posted by Alfafiles:

Originally posted by Alfafiles:

When connected to the well with 2 reactors and a normal power supply of 15 kW, I see the production of 4 l / h of oxygen. But when connected to the pump, I see that only 1.7 l / h enters the pump and at the same time air does not accumulate in the well.
resulting in a connection loss of 2.3 l/h
The developers are kindly requested to replace the material from which the pipes are currently made in the game, as it seems that now the pipes are made from leaky fishing nets.

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1.7 when connecting 1x pipe, if both pipes are connected, I see 0.8 at each inlet and the total output at the pump is still 1.7 l / h

Now I am sure that there is a data error, it seems the values are mixed up with water. When I removed one reactor the water output from the well increased to 4 l/h and the oxygen dropped to 2 l/h. BUT!! now on the screen of the pump I see on the GREEN icon that says "oxygen" the incoming value: 3.3 l / h, HOW??? when the well produces only 2L on one reactor (and yes the well tanks are empty, this is not overkill, the value remains constant)
This is a bug in the game variables.

[MartyS]

It seems like there is some limit on the total for a well, so as you add reactors the water drops off for each one you add.

I just build a medium dome and the water needed is pretty high.

Solution I'm using is starting with a medium solar panel attached to a battery, battery attache to a transformer, transformer to 3 wells, output from the 3 wells into a pump, single output from the pump goes to a large tank, then into my base. 2 of those setups will feed half a medium dome filled with potatoes. Single battery charged by a medium solar panel can keep 3 wells ruining all night.

I've removed all but one of my reactors, there is no use for methane and my base if fed by plants and scrubbers, so only one reactor needed to fill a rover with O2.

[jamess3850]

How does the pump math work? I have 3 wells, each with 2 reactors attached, for a total of 6 reactors. I combine 3 oxygen outputs each to two pumps, then combine those two pumps to a third pump, which feeds a greenhouse.

Each of the reactors produces 1.7L of O2 per hour, which should equal ~10L per hour for all six. When I connect only one reactor of each well, the flow rate from the primary pump is 5L per hour. If I connect both reactors on each well to the pumps, output per pump drops to 2.5L per hour.

If my reactors are producing 10L per hour total, why is only 5L per hour making it to the secondary pump? I've confirmed that the outputs of both primary pumps is at 100%, it looks like the input halves when I attach the second reactor of each well. Is there any way to get the full amount of 10L/hour of O2 produced into the building?

[LukaszP]

Originally posted by jamess3850:

How does the pump math work? I have 3 wells, each with 2 reactors attached, for a total of 6 reactors. I combine 3 oxygen outputs each to two pumps, then combine those two pumps to a third pump, which feeds a greenhouse.

Each of the reactors produces 1.7L of O2 per hour, which should equal ~10L per hour for all six. When I connect only one reactor of each well, the flow rate from the primary pump is 5L per hour. If I connect both reactors on each well to the pumps, output per pump drops to 2.5L per hour.

If my reactors are producing 10L per hour total, why is only 5L per hour making it to the secondary pump? I've confirmed that the outputs of both primary pumps is at 100%, it looks like the input halves when I attach the second reactor of each well. Is there any way to get the full amount of 10L/hour of O2 produced into the building?

The problem here is that pump station's output is a percentage of certain value, while sabatier/well production is given in liters.

Generally it works in this way.

The input of the socket in pump station is equal to amount of the liquid in tank, which is connected to it.

The output is percentage of all inputs of the same type.

Example
socket 1 - water tank 1000L - from single well
socket 2 - water tank 500l - single well
socket 3 - oxygen tank 1000l - single sabatier

so water input is 1500l (available amount of water possible to divide and send) and oxygen 1000l

output socket 1 - set to water and 10% - in first cycle it will sent 150 l, in second cycle it will send
(1500 - 150 + 2*6 [amount of water sent to the tanks from well in that time])*10% which is 136,2 L.

we are thinking about reworking that system, becouse players have difficulties understanding it.

[[GD]Krom]

Not sure if it has been reworked in the meanwhile, but there seems to be some kind of error:

I have two wells, each outputting 6L/h, both connected to a pump. One of the wells has a water tank attached.

So I set the output of the pump to like 10% and it tells me that it is sending like 32L/h to the workshop, but the workshop says it's receiving only 0.6L/h (12L * 10% = 0.6L/H).
When I set the pump to 100% it says it's outputting like 320L/h, but the workshop it is receiving 6L/h, which is the capacity of my two wells.
To say, that output reading of the pump is confusing, if not wrong.

The well with the tank has stored 210L and the one without 110L - total of 320L, whereas 10% of that is 32L/h, which is the reading on the pump if I set it to 10%.
At 100% the ouput reading on the pump is 320L/h, which is the total stored water capacity. But it is not pumping that amount, it's pumping only the given percentage of the wells' capacity, which is X% of 12L/h.

I am confusion, but at least I now understand which value to set on the pump, I guess. :)

[Жаkyй-пройдоха]

Originally posted by LukaszP:

Originally posted by jamess3850:

How does the pump math work? I have 3 wells, each with 2 reactors attached, for a total of 6 reactors. I combine 3 oxygen outputs each to two pumps, then combine those two pumps to a third pump, which feeds a greenhouse.

Each of the reactors produces 1.7L of O2 per hour, which should equal ~10L per hour for all six. When I connect only one reactor of each well, the flow rate from the primary pump is 5L per hour. If I connect both reactors on each well to the pumps, output per pump drops to 2.5L per hour.

If my reactors are producing 10L per hour total, why is only 5L per hour making it to the secondary pump? I've confirmed that the outputs of both primary pumps is at 100%, it looks like the input halves when I attach the second reactor of each well. Is there any way to get the full amount of 10L/hour of O2 produced into the building?

The problem here is that pump station's output is a percentage of certain value, while sabatier/well production is given in liters.

Generally it works in this way.

The input of the socket in pump station is equal to amount of the liquid in tank, which is connected to it.

The output is percentage of all inputs of the same type.

Example
socket 1 - water tank 1000L - from single well
socket 2 - water tank 500l - single well
socket 3 - oxygen tank 1000l - single sabatier

so water input is 1500l (available amount of water possible to divide and send) and oxygen 1000l

output socket 1 - set to water and 10% - in first cycle it will sent 150 l, in second cycle it will send
(1500 - 150 + 2*6 [amount of water sent to the tanks from well in that time])*10% which is 136,2 L.

we are thinking about reworking that system, becouse players have difficulties understanding it.

Yes, it is a big problem to control the output of the pump, because the amount of water is changing in time, and the output is calculating based on the input. Is it much better to control not by percentage, but by liters per hour.

The same problem for the electricity. I hope you will change this system soon.

[Shintai]

In terms of control, if you are just using the pump to combine water links. Put the single output to 100%. That will give the full well power behind the inputs. And it kinda ignores the water tanks, so if you have 3 wells behind a pump and full tanks, it will supply 18L at 100%, 9L at 50% and so on no matter the tank storage. See the tank storage as a production buffer, not a storage buffer.