No Oxygen

[Hades]

here is my conundrum, I built 2 wells. both have water and oxygen tanks and both are upgraded. both wells have 8 solar panels both have ECU's and both fully upgraded, both have 3 Battery's with 2 upgrades on each one. I am producing 10% water on each one and zero Oxygen on one, none on other one. Just enough Oxygen to to give my suit a 10% fill. none since then. I am no longer able to play as i have about 5% oxygen left in my suit. If I did something wrong please any tips or help is Appreciated.

[Old Scaley]

Are you able to build a survival pod? That and a small solar panel or plugged into batteries for 5W will give you emergency O2 refill.

[Hades]

Originally posted by Old Scaley:

Are you able to build a survival pod? That and a small solar panel or plugged into batteries for 5W will give you emergency O2 refill.

Thank you. i'll do that as they are unlocked.

[deltahazer]

Originally posted by Hades:

here is my conundrum, I built 2 wells. both have water and oxygen tanks and both are upgraded. both wells have 8 solar panels both have ECU's and both fully upgraded, both have 3 Battery's with 2 upgrades on each one. I am producing 10% water on each one and zero Oxygen on one, none on other one. Just enough Oxygen to to give my suit a 10% fill. none since then. I am no longer able to play as i have about 5% oxygen left in my suit. If I did something wrong please any tips or help is Appreciated.

Taking things from the top and covering all the bases I can think of:

First, did you use the Spectral Detector to make sure the ground you put your wells on is a good water spot? If they aren't on a spot the detector indicates is a "best" then you're going to get lower (or even zero) production from your wells. Also, if the Capacity shown when you aim at your well's location is a low number, then you might be drawing water from the ground faster than it replenishes.

Next thing would be to check that your solar panels (including the ones built into the wells) aren't dusty. If they're coated in dust from recent weather (especially dust devils/tornadoes) they produce a lot less power, so your wells will only sporadically receive enough power to run. You'll need the Air Compressor from the Machinery tech tree to blow them clean, and a CO2 Scrubber to refill the CO2 cartridge(s) for it, or else you have to wait on them to blow clean naturally, which might take a few days.

Check the settings on your ECU's and batteries. If I understand your description, the wiring layout you have goes something like this:

8x Solar Panel-> ECU-> Battery1-> Battery2-> Battery3-> Well

If that is accurate, make sure your ECU is set to pass 100% power to the output socket your first Battery is connected to (I've set the wrong socket by accident before myself when rushing). Battery 1 and 2 should be set to pass along the full Input they receive (40/48/56MW depending on whether you have either of the upgrades to solar panel output), with Battery 3 set to pass 15.1 MW (the extra 0.1 allows you to use the panel to fill bottles after dark. That setup would keep a Well with two Sabatier Reactors & tanks running 24/7 and gradually fill the batteries to capacity over several days.

If all the above checks out, I'm out of ideas. At that point, I'd put the information in the Bugs forum so it'll be easier for the devs to keep track of.

[Hades]

Originally posted by deltahazer:

Originally posted by Hades:

here is my conundrum, I built 2 wells. both have water and oxygen tanks and both are upgraded. both wells have 8 solar panels both have ECU's and both fully upgraded, both have 3 Battery's with 2 upgrades on each one. I am producing 10% water on each one and zero Oxygen on one, none on other one. Just enough Oxygen to to give my suit a 10% fill. none since then. I am no longer able to play as i have about 5% oxygen left in my suit. If I did something wrong please any tips or help is Appreciated.

Taking things from the top and covering all the bases I can think of:

First, did you use the Spectral Detector to make sure the ground you put your wells on is a good water spot? If they aren't on a spot the detector indicates is a "best" then you're going to get lower (or even zero) production from your wells. Also, if the Capacity shown when you aim at your well's location is a low number, then you might be drawing water from the ground faster than it replenishes.

Next thing would be to check that your solar panels (including the ones built into the wells) aren't dusty. If they're coated in dust from recent weather (especially dust devils/tornadoes) they produce a lot less power, so your wells will only sporadically receive enough power to run. You'll need the Air Compressor from the Machinery tech tree to blow them clean, and a CO2 Scrubber to refill the CO2 cartridge(s) for it, or else you have to wait on them to blow clean naturally, which might take a few days.

Check the settings on your ECU's and batteries. If I understand your description, the wiring layout you have goes something like this:

8x Solar Panel-> ECU-> Battery1-> Battery2-> Battery3-> Well

If that is accurate, make sure your ECU is set to pass 100% power to the output socket your first Battery is connected to (I've set the wrong socket by accident before myself when rushing). Battery 1 and 2 should be set to pass along the full Input they receive (40/48/56MW depending on whether you have either of the upgrades to solar panel output), with Battery 3 set to pass 15.1 MW (the extra 0.1 allows you to use the panel to fill bottles after dark. That setup would keep a Well with two Sabatier Reactors & tanks running 24/7 and gradually fill the batteries to capacity over several days.

If all the above checks out, I'm out of ideas. At that point, I'd put the information in the Bugs forum so it'll be easier for the devs to keep track of.

Yes all the points have been covered. I've gone over it a few times. trying to figure out why the lack of Oxygen and water.

[steholliday]

Hades, if you have built a Hab unit you can easily build a Scrubber in your Hab & that will refill your o2 cartridges as you need them. Just make sure you've enough power going into that Hab (min 15kW)

Added: but if you've still got your landing capsule, you can fill your cartridges from that!

[deltahazer]

Originally posted by Hades:

Yes all the points have been covered. I've gone over it a few times. trying to figure out why the lack of Oxygen and water.

If all the stuff I listed in the previous wall of text checked out, then you've got me stumped. If I was able to play that savegame I might get a new idea or three to check out, but otherwise I'd just have to call it a possible bug and say post it in the bug forum.

[deltahazer]

And right after I post that last, I think of something else you might try. It worked when I had a similar bug a little over a week ago. It's a little annoying but might work.

Disconnect the power and any fluid hoses from an affected well and all its tanks. Grind away the existing well, sabatier reactors, and tanks. Once they are all gone, build a fresh Well and see if the display shows a normal production rate (6 liter/hour, I believe). If it does, reconnect the water line (if there was one) and check again. Then build one Sab reactor and check again, etc. With any luck, you'll get it all replaced and see normal production again. If not, as long as you're checking the screen after each individual change, you can identify the point that it breaks, which could help the devs find the bug.

[jbailey]

I found this type of behavior in the Playing Test version when I built my wells on the edge of a water spot. The detector points to the perfect spot in the field, but what I found is the farther away from that perfect spot you build, the lower the quantity of water it can produce.

[Hades]

Originally posted by deltahazer:

And right after I post that last, I think of something else you might try. It worked when I had a similar bug a little over a week ago. It's a little annoying but might work.

Disconnect the power and any fluid hoses from an affected well and all its tanks. Grind away the existing well, sabatier reactors, and tanks. Once they are all gone, build a fresh Well and see if the display shows a normal production rate (6 liter/hour, I believe). If it does, reconnect the water line (if there was one) and check again. Then build one Sab reactor and check again, etc. With any luck, you'll get it all replaced and see normal production again. If not, as long as you're checking the screen after each individual change, you can identify the point that it breaks, which could help the devs find the bug.

A great Idea, But i beat you to that punchline 3 days ago. I rebuilt everything 3 times now. each time i get almost the exact same result. I'm getting a little water but zero Oxygen. I have the scrubber. it's properly set up. But i'm unable to grow anything they all wither and die. lack of Oxygen and water. and I have 2 Habs one at each end, and a well fully out fitted at each end. both set up using the spectral detector for water. I'm living off of food i keep finding at bases. Thankfully i find 3 to 5 pouches at each base so right now i have a surplus of about 100 pouches. that how ever wont last long if this does not get fixed. I have set up Habs at 4 other locations. I have had a few twister storms but no sand storms as of yet. thankfully.

[What Trigger]

Out of curiosity, is this an old water location?
Just thinking about the topic of wells running dry

[Hades]

Originally posted by What Trigger:

Out of curiosity, is this an old water location?
Just thinking about the topic of wells running dry

Only put the wells in a few days ago and upgraded the wells and battery packs at the same time. I have re'built them 4 times in all now. and almost no difference in water output and virtually no Oxygen at all. if it was not for the survival capsule i would be dead now. and forced to start over. and with everything currently in game Unlocked that would really suck.

[kwahom]

The only way I can get oxygen in the greenhouse is from the plants. I also have the well maxed out but get no oxygen. Panel shows 2,00 l/h but the tank never gets anything in it.

[Hades]

Originally posted by kwahom:

The only way I can get oxygen in the greenhouse is from the plants. I also have the well maxed out but get no oxygen. Panel shows 2,00 l/h but the tank never gets anything in it.

Same here both tanks show 2.00 l/h but nothing i even removed the hose and tried to fill my Oxygen supply i was at 50% but it said empty.

[woenk]

Originally posted by Hades:

Originally posted by What Trigger:

Out of curiosity, is this an old water location?
Just thinking about the topic of wells running dry

Only put the wells in a few days ago and upgraded the wells and battery packs at the same time. I have re'built them 4 times in all now. and almost no difference in water output and virtually no Oxygen at all. if it was not for the survival capsule i would be dead now. and forced to start over. and with everything currently in game Unlocked that would really suck.

How much power are you supplying the wells with the sabbatier ? The well needs addittional 5k W per sabbatier.
Also it is strange that your plants a withering because of the lack of oxygen, only happened to me when there was not enough water.
And the plants should also supply you with oxygen. And never happened to me that the scrubber in the base did not provide oxygen to fill me up again.
Is your base losing oxygen somewhere ?
Do you have double iris airlocks at the entrance ? If it is just one it will vent the atmosphere each time you enter. I also put two of them before the entrance of the garage.
Also those hoses seem to be a bit leaky, from my pump readouts I only get about 0,8L/h from the sabbatiers, even though on the pump it says 2L/h, but three of them and one scrubber in base are enough to have a liveable atmosphere.
And just to be on the sure side I put an iris before any connecting building.

[Hades]

Originally posted by woenk:

Originally posted by Hades:

Only put the wells in a few days ago and upgraded the wells and battery packs at the same time. I have re'built them 4 times in all now. and almost no difference in water output and virtually no Oxygen at all. if it was not for the survival capsule i would be dead now. and forced to start over. and with everything currently in game Unlocked that would really suck.

How much power are you supplying the wells with the sabbatier ? The well needs addittional 5k W per sabbatier.
Also it is strange that your plants a withering because of the lack of oxygen, only happened to me when there was not enough water.
And the plants should also supply you with oxygen. And never happened to me that the scrubber in the base did not provide oxygen to fill me up again.
Is your base losing oxygen somewhere ?
Do you have double iris airlocks at the entrance ? If it is just one it will vent the atmosphere each time you enter. I also put two of them before the entrance of the garage.
Also those hoses seem to be a bit leaky, from my pump readouts I only get about 0,8L/h from the sabbatiers, even though on the pump it says 2L/h, but three of them and one scrubber in base are enough to have a liveable atmosphere.
And just to be on the sure side I put an iris before any connecting building.

I have 2 Habs one at each end of the Base. both on wells fully upgraded. each well has 8 medium solar panels. both have ECU's fully upgraded. each with 2 Battery's with double battery packs. I'm just about to build 3 to 4 medium and large domes. And I am also thinking of building more wells for them as well as for my Greenhouse. I unlocked the Nuke power But it's not available as of yet. Like I previously said i have unlocked all Blueprints. Also i Have 12 Medium solar panels with a ECU fully upgraded and 5 Battery's each one with Double Battery packs, On the Main Hab. I'll add even more As i build the green house and all the Domes. as well as the Garage.

Also i forgot to add I always add 2 Iris at all entry ways on my base.