Really bad performance on GTX 1650ti

[Marlz888]

So I'm getting like 15fps @ 1080p low graphics settings.

I know it's not a great card but isn't this unusual?

[Pyramid Games]

Does the problem occur in the Demo version? Is there any particular moment in the gameplay when it happens or is it an ongoing issue?

[Tryst49]

I am using a GTX1060 6Gb with no problems.
Since the 1660ti is a significant upgrade, I would presume it would be better than mine.

Do you have the latest drivers from Nvidia?

[Faithlight]

In Nvidia control panel use the slider to select performance rather than balanced or quality. Also if you have custom profiles make sure as much as possible is set to "application preferred". Are you using hybrid threading? You could try to disable that in the BIOS, I have found that thread handling can cause drops in game performance, though this is usually seen as intermittent drops rather than constant. Also in your BIOS ensure you have all PCIE bandwidth allocated to your for GPU (unless using NVM.2 that uses PCIE). V-sync and shadows too, try with them on and off.

Also yes, ensure drivers for GPU are up to date and see if there are any updates for your BIOS. Remember, that when installing drivers that you check the "clean install" checkbox (unless you have profiles you dont want to set back up in Nvidia control panel).

Some more information like OS, specs, # of running processes and the memory they are consuming. Watch the system monitor to see if there are processes that are hogging memory or processor. Some antivirus software can wreck some but not all games. So if you have AV turn it off or enable its game mode function (if present).

**Edit**
Tried it there on a Win 7u 64bit (SP1), 16gb ram, GTX1070 (driver 445.87, my preferred driver version currently) and no problems with frames.

[2ugly]

From encrans statement one might imply he would think that uninstalling the Nvidia Experience bloatware might be a good thing. Which it is.

You usually dig into that amount of BIOS manipulating when you discover the manipulation of the industry. You buy a gaming graphics card that has adaptive performance turned on by default....... Like buying a Lambo with a speed limiter.....that the user is then forced to figure out how to manipulate to get the performance they paid for.

[Faithlight]

Yes and with every driver update they "improve" the performance.... improve being to make the card work slower and slower making you think you need a new card and go by a new one -.-

[Marlz888]

Thanks for the help. I didn't actually change anything and it started running fine. Not sure what the problem was.

[Faithlight]

Originally posted by Marlz888:

Thanks for the help. I didn't actually change anything and it started running fine. Not sure what the problem was.

I broke in and fixed it. That will be €45 please

[Tryst49]

Originally posted by encran:

I broke in and fixed it. That will be €45 please

Sure you want to admit that? He might find the door frame broken and charge you 450 to have it fixed.

[Faithlight]

hahaha

[Harbingerman]

I played the first part with a gtx 660 and had no problems ... my new card is a gtx 1650 ... tho I dont anticipate problems one other game I played suffered half a dozen crashes and previous ... none ... Win10 AMD and GTX faster cards? Shawdow and render etc ... vulcan ... a myriad of new stuff who knows what causes problems anymore. I never had problems with Windows 7 and my old gtx 660 ... now Win10 and everything starts to fail ... I am getting rid of a lot of Win 10 processes and some might be game crucial who knows. I will have yet to try this again it looks good... waiting.

[Tryst49]

Yes, Win10 is not the best OS for gaming really. Most of the problems I have seen in a number of games have been from users on Win10, while Win7 users like myself have had no problems at all.

I have had Win7 for a number of years and 99.9% of the games I've installed have run really smoothly on it. I have games that give better frame rates with a 1060 6Gb than other users with 1000, 1600, 2000 and even 3000 series cards on Win 10.

As a test, I installed Win 10 on my PC and tried a couple of games. The results were something of a disaster. 2 games wouldn't even load and the others had frame rates of between 20% and 80% lower than on Win7. The ONLY difference was the OS, none of the hardware was changed.

I have now gone back to Win7 since it performs far better than Win10 in almost every area. TBH, I think Win10 is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

[Faithlight]

+1 What Tryst49 said.
I am on Win 7 on one system and it runs everything well. Windows 10 not so much without loads of tweaks. My sons build, which is MORE powerful is W10 and runs games at a similar or lower fps to my system. Nuts. forcing DX11 in many cases helps, disabling virtual cores can help too, intel boost can cause problems on some configurations, but low CL ram is an absolute MUST on windows 10. CL 16 or higher, forget about it.

[Tryst49]

You can tweak the BIOS setting to reduce CL. How far you can reduce it before you start to get errors depends on the quality of the RAM.

[Faithlight]

Indeed, but starting with low CL modules in the first place is better than forcing faster timings, forced timings mean that you are sacrificing elsewhere and this usually manifests as seemingly random stutters.

[Tryst49]

Originally posted by encran:

Indeed, but starting with low CL modules in the first place is better than forcing faster timings, forced timings mean that you are sacrificing elsewhere and this usually manifests as seemingly random stutters.

Not necessarily. All motherboard manufacturers allow some margin for safety and some (MSI for example) tend to be over cautious in their factory settings.

It's like any overclocking, you can overclock any device up to a point. The better the quality of the device, the more tolerance it has to being overclocked without causing problems.

If you are looking to upgrade, I found Corsair products to be very well priced for their quality.