Shenmue I & II

Shenmue I & II

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Kamamura Sep 1, 2018 @ 9:38am
Nozomi (Spoilers)
Hearing alot about how moody and lyrical this game is, I wondered whether the relation with Nozomi leads anywhere. When I realized I am probably going to Hong Kong (after Ryo said during morning prayer at the shrine "Father, I am going to Hong Kong"), I postponed the main questline until Christmas pass, because I wanted to spend them with Nozomi - buy her a nice present, take her to dinner, or just a bunch of flowers from their own shop, anything, but no, no interaction possible.

Her friend tells me Nozomi is worried and crying, dumbarse Ryo writes that down in his notebook, but he fails to even find a few kind words for her. With is obsessed tunnel vision personality, he bombards her with questions about ancient mirrors, Chinese translations, monstrous henchmen running past her shop, but does not find a moment for simple "Hey, Nozomi, are you okay?"

Worst waifu interaction ever, if you ask me.
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-__- Sep 1, 2018 @ 10:22am 
It's meant to be a strained relationship, because of Ryo's obvious grief issues and general demeanour. You'll understand him a bit better in 2, because he's less robot, and more "angry young man".

There are also a few optional cutscenes with Nozomi and Ryo's friends that shed a bit more light on things, plus some of Ryo's backstory about why he's so unemotional was squirrelled away on the Passport disk in the original Dreamcast release.
Phone her
R3N Sep 1, 2018 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Chris:
It's meant to be a strained relationship, because of Ryo's obvious grief issues and general demeanour. You'll understand him a bit better in 2, because he's less robot, and more "angry young man".

There are also a few optional cutscenes with Nozomi and Ryo's friends that shed a bit more light on things, plus some of Ryo's backstory about why he's so unemotional was squirrelled away on the Passport disk in the original Dreamcast release.
Tell me more about " he's so unemotional was squirrelled away on the Passport disk in the original Dreamcast release"
That is interesting.
R3N Sep 1, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Kamamura:
Hearing alot about how moody and lyrical this game is, I wondered whether the relation with Nozomi leads anywhere. When I realized I am probably going to Hong Kong (after Ryo said during morning prayer at the shrine "Father, I am going to Hong Kong"), I postponed the main questline until Christmas pass, because I wanted to spend them with Nozomi - buy her a nice present, take her to dinner, or just a bunch of flowers from their own shop, anything, but no, no interaction possible.

Her friend tells me Nozomi is worried and crying, dumbarse Ryo writes that down in his notebook, but he fails to even find a few kind words for her. With is obsessed tunnel vision personality, he bombards her with questions about ancient mirrors, Chinese translations, monstrous henchmen running past her shop, but does not find a moment for simple "Hey, Nozomi, are you okay?"

Worst waifu interaction ever, if you ask me.
I always dream of going to the movie theater in the 3rd disk with Nozomi during my first play through. It never happened through. As well through i would go to Hong Kong on disk 3 on dreamcast.
They not going to end up together that is for sure. It's hinted in Shenmue II when you choose option about "love" when talking with Fang Mei and he says he would like to know more about girl on his dreams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=527&v=V0Ry-SkLEQk
R3N Sep 1, 2018 @ 3:05pm 
they are destined to be together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3xg4ylJ8k0
-__- Sep 1, 2018 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by kenxeus:
Tell me more about " he's so unemotional was squirrelled away on the Passport disk in the original Dreamcast release"
That is interesting.
So, remember the cutscene on the first day of Shenmue 1 when you look at the banner in the dojo and have the flashback? The one where Iwao is talking to Ryo about getting into a fight at school?

The bio in the Passport elaborates on this by saying Ryo got into the fight with his friend because they were teasing him about liking a girl. It went on to mention something about how since then he's been a lot more closed off about his feelings, which explains a LOT.

I can't tell if it was cool or stupid to hide something that crucial to understanding Ryo in the Passport.
R3N Sep 1, 2018 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by Chris:
Originally posted by kenxeus:
Tell me more about " he's so unemotional was squirrelled away on the Passport disk in the original Dreamcast release"
That is interesting.
So, remember the cutscene on the first day of Shenmue 1 when you look at the banner in the dojo and have the flashback? The one where Iwao is talking to Ryo about getting into a fight at school?

The bio in the Passport elaborates on this by saying Ryo got into the fight with his friend because they were teasing him about liking a girl. It went on to mention something about how since then he's been a lot more closed off about his feelings, which explains a LOT.

I can't tell if it was cool or stupid to hide something that crucial to understanding Ryo in the Passport.
That is quite normal for kids to experience.
Ryo is quite normal for a typical Japanese. Its more of a cultural shock.
thank you through didn't knew what caused the fight.
Last edited by R3N; Sep 1, 2018 @ 5:33pm
antraxx_argadi Sep 1, 2018 @ 5:24pm 
Definitely one of the most tragic aspects of Shenmue 1, aside from Ryo and the kitten losing their parents. Nozomi will be remembered as the one who got away, only because Ryo was too revenge-blind to appreciate her.

I get the feeling she’s not being entirely honest about why she heads back to Canada; I think she just wouldn’t be able to stand a Yokosuka without Ryo there. So I think she made the choice, or at least didn’t fight the situation once she found out about Ryo leaving. I’m sure leaving her mother and grandma wasn’t an easy choice though.

That’s interesting about Ryo getting embarrassed by his peers; it would explain why he’s so hesitant around Nozomi’s friends to admit he likes her. From that perspective, Eri’s persistence probably seems obnoxious. (I like Eri though, because she obviously cares about both of them to go to such lengths)
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