What a shame of port

[Xrysol]

What a shame of port, what a shame of port,what a shame of port and thousand times WHAT A SHAME OF PORT.Take a game of almost 20 years ago, that worked fine and without bugs and make a direct port in 2018 ..... with bugs, did sega or dt3 betatest the game? it seems that it has not been tested. Without bothering translate it into Spanish?ok the originals not have spanish but in 2018?can´t translate it?there is a fan translation.... could not remove the icons from the menu of the dreamcast version? It's funny to play on a ps4 and have the dreamcast icons, controller and vmu.I have the version of ps4, I was going to buy the pc but with the problems that it has not interest me and I have the version of ps4 because I can not return it, I'm playing it again in my dreamcast console and in Spanish, with a good translation made by fans.as a fan of the saga, and I have all the original games of shenmue dreamcast (1 and 2) and xbox (2) even this bad port of 2018 on ps4, and for last i am backer of shenmue 3, I feel very disappointed with this product that has gone on sale. It seems that sega or dt3 only care earn money and you have not bothered much by users or fans. I can not find another explanation.

[Walker☻//︻ ---]

Im more unhappy how big hole of cheese wheel this was and that patch build didnt done much yet

[dannyj147]

So bad port because of no Spanish translation. I see.

[Xrysol]

Publicado originalmente por dannyj54147:

So bad port because of no Spanish translation. I see.

Do you read my post?have you tried the games?the dreamcast version is from 1999, has no updates, works fine, without bugs, and no, no have spanish too.The ps4 version have now a update, 200 mb for shenmue 1 and i think 6,8 gb for shenmue 2.Still, have sound problems, the game hangs, have the dreamcast icons on menu (YES it is such a direct port that neither removed)same for pc version and sure the xbox one version have the same problems.Then, sega or dt3 can´t make a working port in 2018 of a game of 1999 that works PERFECT without updates in a dreamcast.Is a bad port?Do you see now?

[Xrysol]

You can put the disc of shenmue in any dreamcast and play it from the begining to the end, without any update, without any bug, is from 1999, a perfect working game.

I can´t play it well in my ps4, have sound problems, music sometimes stop, the music does not sound sometimes, have issues with videos, issue with cutscenes.......I install and update of 200 mb the game still have problem.

Pc Version same problems
Xbox one version, don´t know but sure problems too.

if this is not a shame of port, I do not know what it will be

[Xrysol]

Publicado originalmente por Vamphaery:

It's definitely not perfect. They have released one patch, with another more substantial patch on the way. I've been fortunate so far, in that I haven't encountered any of the more serious issues. Other people have not been so fortunate. The most constructive thing we can do right now, is continue to report bugs in as comprehensive a manner as possible, including dxdiag, dumpfiles, and save files.

On the idealistic side, yes it's a shame this beloved game we've all waited so long for a release of is tarnished with issues at launch. I know it feels like it should be perfect, given its age. On the pragmatic side though, the age of the game has nothing to do with it being easy to port, and it being bug-free on Dreamcast has nothing to do with it being bug-free in its ported form.

The Shenmue release we played back then had a massive budget and a list of bugs a mile long, which they spent a lot of dev time squashing, somewhat infamously, before release. The difference with the port is, Sega was not willing to spend a lot here. Which, yes, is sad. But also understandable from a pragmatic financial standpoint. Internally, Shenmue until very recently was seen as risky by Sega, and this was really more or less a token gesture to fans for so stridently requesting it every month for years.

I'm not making excuses for them. In a perfect world, they would have spared no expense to polish this port. But we don't live in a perfect world, and financial realities and considerations are what they are, unfortunately. I don't like it or agree with it, and wish they had spent just a bit more on QA before release... but this is basically all we were ever going to get. So, since I can't change what's already done, the most constructive thing for me as a Shenmue fan to do is 1) support the release, and 2) do what I can to help report and organize bug lists and other relevant data. I think that's where our focus should lie now.

Yes, it sucks we have to do that. But these games deserve the effort, and newcomers deserve to end up eventually with a more stable version of these ports. We should fight for these ports to end up polished in the end, with the same determination and passion we did to get them released in the first place imo, as a community.

I agree, I would even like to translate this game into other languages, such as Spanish, which is my native language, hopefully sega or dt3 give tools for translation and fans take care of this translations. It is not a perfect world,I know and Maybe it was hard, but I like this game a lot and I found a port that almost made me cry, it made me feel bad, to the point of playing this game again on the dreamcast instead of the ps4 and in fact I had thought of buying it on ps4 and pc, but as it is, I'm sorry but no. I already bought it on ps4 and pc if they fix many things I'll buy it.

I know that in his day Sega invested a lot of money and that's why the dreamcast version is very beta-tested and has no problems, but it gives the feeling that this port of 2018 is not tested or very little tested or is what it seems and feels with all my heart that is a shame of port.

Only the hope remains that all the problems were fixed with time and have a decent port.

[R3N]

1) Si hay errores, pero el problema es que Shenmue I es dificil de recrear.
Shenmue II usaron la version de xbox que utiliza x86 de windows asi que es mas simple de recrear.
2) El parche de beta arregla muchos de los errores. El juego juega mucho mejor en mi caso. Asta lo puedo jugar en linux sin problemas.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/758330/discussions/0/1735462352488015583/
3) Ellos estan trabjando con arreglar los errores.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/758330/discussions/0/1735462352480517406/

4) El proposito de Shenmue I & II no es para hacer ganancias facil a Sega. El proposito es espandir la marca de Shenmue antes que venga Shenmue III.
Ademas es una prueba que Sega esta haciendo para ver si Shenmue tiene valor en el mercado o no. Si este juego se vende bien en el futuro podremos tener Shenmue I & II remake con la engine de Shenmue III. Ademas si vende bien Sega le dara mas recursos a Shenmue III.
5) Vale completamente la pena ya que tener el juego legal sin emulador cuesta mucho dinero.
No necesitas ahora una consola para jugar. Ademas la habilidad para MODS a incrementado de manera increible.
a) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/1
b) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/2
c) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/3
Si este juego no se vende bien Sega no es el que se afecta pero si se afecta la marca de Shenmue. Ellos solo van a dejar de invertir en Shenmue y haran mas juegos de Sonic y Yakuza.
La realidad es que Shenmue todavia esta en peligro. Si Shenmue III no llega a vender bien no vamos a tener Shenmue IV y Shenmue V. La Marca esta aun en peligro.

El los archivos de juego hay espanol. Lo tenian planeado a~nadir pero no los pusieron a ultima hora desconosco la razon. Todavia no eh preguntado porque pero me gustaria saber al igual porque.

[R3N]

The game was suppose to get Spanish but didn't get it. We should demand for translation through. Spanish is the second most spoken language after Engish and many Spanish speakers are huge fans of Shenmue. Even some of the current mods for shenmue like widescreen hack where made by Spanish speaker.
Here you can see file location where Spanish is translated to the other languages.
https://i.imgur.com/3MIIRPY.png

[Stnank]

Publicado originalmente por Xrysol:

You can put the disc of shenmue in any dreamcast and play it from the begining to the end, without any update, without any bug, is from 1999, a perfect working game.

Maybe that's because that was a high-budgeted project made by top-tier devs for the hardware it was intended for (after the Saturn fiasco).

This is a port of a 19 year old game with a strict and complicated engine by a B-Tier studio on modern hardware, which doesn't always agree with old games. If you didn't expect to have some problems, then you're crazy.

[CaptainRon]

I think you are crying to be crying. I haven't had any problems. Well I take that back, during a cutscene it just showed the road. Rebooted game and it worked fine again. EVERY game on the planet has bugs.

[Xrysol]

Publicado originalmente por Stnank:

Publicado originalmente por Xrysol:

You can put the disc of shenmue in any dreamcast and play it from the begining to the end, without any update, without any bug, is from 1999, a perfect working game.

Maybe that's because that was a high-budgeted project made by top-tier devs for the hardware it was intended for (after the Saturn fiasco).

This is a port of a 19 year old game with a strict and complicated engine by a B-Tier studio on modern hardware, which doesn't always agree with old games. If you didn't expect to have some problems, then you're crazy.

Some bugs.........

Patch v1.01

Audio
Fixed various instances of crackling background music.
Fixed issues with rain.
Fixed issues with some sound effects crackling.

UI
Fixed incorrect button prompts shown in some QTE events when using mouse and keyboard.
Fixed various instances of incorrect help screen text displayed around the game.
Fixed duplicated button prompts in QTE Title 2.
Fixed an issue with 2560 x 1080 UI resolutions.

Controls
Fixed inconsistencies when sparring in the dojo.

Graphical Issues
Fixed various issues with cameras being incorrect in cut scenes.
Fixed issues with hair sometimes rendering slightly transparent.

Miscellaneous
The gong in Bunkada Antiques can now be interacted with.

And incoming second update patch.....I think there is no some bugs......

Whats the problem about this?for example, I have the ps4 version on disc, in 5 years?sony close servers, I sell the game, the buyer put the disc on his ps4 and what have? a game with lot of bugs.

I understand that can be bugs in a game and that now it is easy to solve them with updates, but that the music is cut or that the music does not sound for example ... have not noticed neither in PC, nor in PS4 nor in Xbox One? this can not happen ... it seems that they make a release of what they have and we will solve the bugs in a future.

[WinterzShadow]

Long time Shenmue fan since the game launched and I can agree, plenty of bugs and it is indeed quite a shame of a port. Audio, cutscenes, load screen double jeopardy, immersion breaking. Very disappointed.

[Xrysol]

Publicado originalmente por CaptainRon:

I think you are crying to be crying. I haven't had any problems. Well I take that back, during a cutscene it just showed the road. Rebooted game and it worked fine again. EVERY game on the planet has bugs.

You very are lucky:

Patch v1.01

Audio
Fixed various instances of crackling background music.
Fixed issues with rain.
Fixed issues with some sound effects crackling.

UI
Fixed incorrect button prompts shown in some QTE events when using mouse and keyboard.
Fixed various instances of incorrect help screen text displayed around the game.
Fixed duplicated button prompts in QTE Title 2.
Fixed an issue with 2560 x 1080 UI resolutions.

Controls
Fixed inconsistencies when sparring in the dojo.

Graphical Issues
Fixed various issues with cameras being incorrect in cut scenes.
Fixed issues with hair sometimes rendering slightly transparent.

Miscellaneous
The gong in Bunkada Antiques can now be interacted with.

And incoming second update patch.....this are bugs confirmed by sega.

you haven't had any problems?or you have not played the dreamcast version and you have not noticed the problems it has?

It's strange, because users are reporting bugs in PC ,PS4 and I guess in Xbox One.I do not think that the users who are reporting bugs are crying to be crying.


Send your game that is free of problems to Sega and they will not have to correct the problems that other users report

EVERY game on the planet has bugs?maybe, all modern sure, and sure that if you look for them in all the games,and I can understand that any company take out a game that has a bug but that a game has bugs without looking for them ..... for example failures like it runs out of sound, or does not sound a music ... it seems unjustifiable to me.What is next? The main character with graphic bug throughout the game? No problem, all games have bugs, we will release an update.No fx sounds, No problem, all games have bugs.Controls non working, No problem, all games have bugs.

[Xrysol]

Publicado originalmente por kenxeus:

1) Si hay errores, pero el problema es que Shenmue I es dificil de recrear.
Shenmue II usaron la version de xbox que utiliza x86 de windows asi que es mas simple de recrear.
2) El parche de beta arregla muchos de los errores. El juego juega mucho mejor en mi caso. Asta lo puedo jugar en linux sin problemas.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/758330/discussions/0/1735462352488015583/
3) Ellos estan trabjando con arreglar los errores.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/758330/discussions/0/1735462352480517406/

4) El proposito de Shenmue I & II no es para hacer ganancias facil a Sega. El proposito es espandir la marca de Shenmue antes que venga Shenmue III.
Ademas es una prueba que Sega esta haciendo para ver si Shenmue tiene valor en el mercado o no. Si este juego se vende bien en el futuro podremos tener Shenmue I & II remake con la engine de Shenmue III. Ademas si vende bien Sega le dara mas recursos a Shenmue III.
5) Vale completamente la pena ya que tener el juego legal sin emulador cuesta mucho dinero.
No necesitas ahora una consola para jugar. Ademas la habilidad para MODS a incrementado de manera increible.
a) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/1
b) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/2
c) https://www.nexusmods.com/shenmue/mods/3
Si este juego no se vende bien Sega no es el que se afecta pero si se afecta la marca de Shenmue. Ellos solo van a dejar de invertir en Shenmue y haran mas juegos de Sonic y Yakuza.
La realidad es que Shenmue todavia esta en peligro. Si Shenmue III no llega a vender bien no vamos a tener Shenmue IV y Shenmue V. La Marca esta aun en peligro.

El los archivos de juego hay espanol. Lo tenian planeado a~nadir pero no los pusieron a ultima hora desconosco la razon. Todavia no eh preguntado porque pero me gustaria saber al igual porque.

Te respondo en castellano que es mi idioma nativo, pasate por aqui y lee la historia:

http://tiovictor.romhackhispano.org/

Estos fans hicieron una traduccion muy buena al castellano de las versiones de dreamcast, tanto el 1 como el dos, asi como la traduccion al 2 en xbox.

Se ofrecieron a sega y a dt3 para que usaran su traduccion y no les hicieron caso.

O sea, que la traduccion esta hecha.No llegaron ni a un acuerdo ni les hicieron mucho caso.

El 2 en xbox venia "algo" traducido al castellano, los menus y algo mas, pero en si la historia y el juego no, no se si esos archivos corresponden a lo traducido en xbox o se trata de una traduccion completa.

En teoria y segun dijo yu suzuki no habra mas shenmue despues del 3, esta pensado para que acabe la historia.O eso es lo que dijo.Que me corrija alguien si me equivoco, asi que no habra Shenmue IV ni V, todo acaba en shenmue 3.

[Xrysol]

I want to say that my intention to open this thread, apart from showing my disappointment with the game launched in 2018, due to the large number of failures I'm finding and that many users are reporting, is that sega or dt3 realize that they have launched a game with many failures and my intention is to press them to be resolved as quickly as possible.

I do not think it helps to open a post where you say "thank you Sega for the game" and I am the first to be grateful, I love the shenmue saga but I will thank you when it works well.

There is a lot of work to be done so that people can enjoy these great games.

and I do not find any justification in that the game has faults as big as that the music does not sound, as for example, I do not find any justification if I am going to buy a car and it comes with a flat tire. I do not tell the seller or the brand of the vehicle "thanks for the car" no, I complain a lot for a quick solution.

With big mistakes that are also reporting many users are not worth excuses as "all games have bugs"

So my intention is to say to sega or dt3 "hey, this is not right, fix it, that these big mistakes can not happen and if they have happened, well look for quick solution"

Sorry if my English is not good at all, I hope you understand me.

[R3N]

Publicado originalmente por Xrysol:

I want to say that my intention to open this thread, apart from showing my disappointment with the game launched in 2018, due to the large number of failures I'm finding and that many users are reporting, is that sega or dt3 realize that they have launched a game with many failures and my intention is to press them to be resolved as quickly as possible.

I do not think it helps to open a post where you say "thank you Sega for the game" and I am the first to be grateful, I love the shenmue saga but I will thank you when it works well.

There is a lot of work to be done so that people can enjoy these great games.

and I do not find any justification in that the game has faults as big as that the music does not sound, as for example, I do not find any justification if I am going to buy a car and it comes with a flat tire. I do not tell the seller or the brand of the vehicle "thanks for the car" no, I complain a lot for a quick solution.

With big mistakes that are also reporting many users are not worth excuses as "all games have bugs"

So my intention is to say to sega or dt3 "hey, this is not right, fix it, that these big mistakes can not happen and if they have happened, well look for quick solution"

Sorry if my English is not good at all, I hope you understand me.

Yu Suzuki dijo que la historia no hiba a terminar en Shenmue III
Este articulo habla mas del asunto.
https://gamerant.com/shenmue-3-ending-sequel/

Bugs es normal que pase ya que Shenmue 1 & II en si son una emulacion del juego actual.
Es como si te dieran un juego de hace 20 a!nos creado por Japoneses.
dt3 No escribio el juego desde la nada. Ellos solo escribieron un emulador que corra el juego.
Asi que es normal que haiga tanto bugs. Especialmente para Shenmue I que es mas complejo.
Shenmue II esta hecho en una arquitectura x86 ya que estan usando la version de Xbox.

Final Fantasy X es igual. Es un emulador y tienen muchos bugs.
Todavia tienen muchos Bugs... Solo visita ese link y mira los titulos.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/359870/discussions/
Eso que es un juego que ya lleva 2 a!nos en Steam.
Al pareser Squarenix no esta muy activo arreglando el juego. Encontraras docenas de errores que aun no se han arreglado.

Lo de la traduccion en espanol lo comprendo. Pero haciendo threads diciendo que el juego es un port malo no va a ayudar.
Realmente la comunidad de habla Hispana se tiene que reunir juntos y reclamar la traduccion.
Unidos.
Si quieres podemos hacer un post aqui on en facebook o twitter. Si los fans se reunen puede que tomen accion. Pero solo algunas personas no hara mucho.

Creo que fue un error muy estupido no incluir espanol ya que es la segunda lengua mas hablada del mundo y tiene una gran comunidad de fans.