Shenmue I & II

Shenmue I & II

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R3N 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 2:28
Is Shenmue I & II is too expensive????? READ BEFORE YOU BUY!!!!
Is Shenmue I & II expensive for a steam game? That is for you to decide.

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Here is a market Research to help you decide.

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What it is included?
You getting 2 completly different games. NOT 1 game.
You getting
************ 2 GAMES.********************

Shenmue 1
The original games was 3 Disc of content
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenmue

Shenmue 2
The original game was 4 Disc of content
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenmue_II

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Market analyze

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Sonic Adventure DX: |
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RELEASE STEAM DATE: 4 Mar, 2011
$7.99 USD
1 CD Content
Dreamcast game:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/71250/Sonic_Adventure_DX/

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Sonic Adventure 2 |
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RELEASE STEAM DATE: 19 Nov, 2012
9.99 USD
1 CD Content
Dreamcast game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/213610/Sonic_Adventure_2/

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FINAL FANTASY VII |
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RELEASE STEAM DATE: 4 Jul, 2013
$11.99 USD
3 CD content
Playstation 1 game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/39140/FINAL_FANTASY_VII/

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CHRONO TRIGGER® |
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RELEASE DATE: 27 Feb, 2018
Original Price $14.99
On Sale currently: $7.49 USD
Snes Game with Snes Graphics

https://store.steampowered.com/app/613830/CHRONO_TRIGGER/

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Grandia® II Anniversary Edition |
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RELEASE STEAM DATE: 24 Aug, 2015
$19.99 USD
2 CD content
Dreamcast game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/330390/Grandia_II_Anniversary_Edition/

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FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster |
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RELEASE DATE: 12 May, 2016
$29.99 USD
Playstation 2 game. (Shenmue gameplay is graphically superior in my opinion)
cutscense FFX obviously has better. Yet Shenmue gameplay & Cutscenes are the same.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/359870/FINAL_FANTASY_XX2_HD_Remaster/

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FINAL FANTASY IX |
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RELEASE DATE: 14 Apr, 2016
$20.99 USD
4 CD content
Playstation 1 game.


https://store.steampowered.com/app/377840/FINAL_FANTASY_IX/

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Buying Digital Copy of Shenmue I
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USED: $35.35

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00004S99R/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

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Buying Digital Copy of Shenmue II
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Ebay
You can't find it in amazon.
USED: $92.67
Buy It Now+$23.20 shipping

You can buy Shenmue II for Xbox for Cheaper but you can't transfer save file and You need 2 consoles!


It your choice you can get game for 26$ or less if you look for deals for steam release for the price of an used copy of only Shenmue i. or Buy game separated in which an used copy will Cost you a LOT more, especially if you lack the consoles you will end up paying x10 the steam price. Down the road will spend even more to replace broken down consoles.

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/buy-shenmue-shenmue-ii-here-deals.170/

最后由 R3N 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 7:24
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Wyrtt 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 6:24 
All games you listed are 5x-6-x times cheaper than Shenmue in my country,

Rather hard to buy a game I already played decaded ago for such money.
Stoibs 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 6:29 
Never owned a Dreamcast, never got the chance to play these.
Infact after seeing all the hype surrounding this release I decided to go and see why I never heard *anyone* amongst my gaming circle or just in general talking about these back in the day; turns out the Dreamcast was a colossal flop and a disaster of a launch here in Australia.
(Actually a pretty interesting read that caused much head shaking and raised eyebrows)
Would be unreasonably expensive for me to acquire one let alone source the games for them these days.
Never owned any iteration of an Xbox either, so that's off the table for me as well.

So essentially, yeah this port was very welcomed and objectively cheaper than the available alternatives from my perspective.
It's good to see and support more console exclusives and extremely niche things making their way to a greater audience and more platforms these days too.

引用自 Wyrtt
Rather hard to buy a game I already played decaded ago for such money.

That seems to be the crux of this ongoing argument on these forums doesn't it.
Those that already played these from decades ago not seeing the benefit of grabbing them again at the asking price vs those of us who are regarding these things as new games that we haven't experienced before, and thus are fine with the asking price.

引用自 -iD-
i personally think the game is old enough to be 10 bucks each for a total of 20 bucks, but thats just me.
Ironically that's exactly what a lot of us paid for this anyway thanks to the likes of Voidu or Fanatical etc having good pre-order promos.
最后由 Stoibs 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 6:33
MancSoulja 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 6:34 
引用自 MehKind
引用自 Pass_the _M
people who complain about prices are attention ♥♥♥♥♥♥. this is Steam wait for a damn sale.
That's excatly what i am gonna do. Thanks for paying from me to them. They will sure make profit if you bought it at full price. Do me a favour, put a hand in your heart and answer this: Did Sega do justice with this game in 2018 and do they have a right to ask price of $30 (more in other regions) for such lowsy work? Please be honest.

Do you know what it took to get Shenmue working on the PC? I don't.

How can you demean the people who spend time bringing this to us and calling their work lousy without an ounce of comprehension about how much work was involved?
b9thirty99 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 7:08 
You are talking like this is the first time a long time console game finally ported to the PC.... Just to let you know games are made on PC. So you shouldn't be amazed if it comes back to it.

I am a programmer myself, i make flash games and I know how hard my peer works. I am not undermining them in any way. I am questioning the price tag, and i don't think it needs that big of price tag. Games such as these have a solid fanbase and hype around so making sure that you get the price right, you actually have to put serious analysis. If it was $20, I can guarantee you it would have sold more copies. Just check current sold copies in steamdb. You will get answer. Then there a re newcomers like me who already have refunded the game. I unlike most of them will be back, but not until I it becomes $10 or less.
最后由 b9thirty99 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 7:09
SnowBlack&D7BBC 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 10:21 
引用自 MehKind
Forgot to take more samples. There are not only rereleases, there are remasters and remakes which cost around or less than what this game ask for

Age of empires Definitive edition ($20)-all expansions+game

Homeworld remaster ($35)-2 games+expansions

Crash Bandicoot nSane trilogy ($40)- three games+all exclusive dlcs

Halo master chief collection ($60)-four games+dlcs////edited the price

Devil may cry collection ($30)- three games+all exclusive dlcs

And I can give you more if you like.....


They all are better priced, reworked fr top to bottom, and their associated publishers used their budget and manpower in a right direction.
Now comes the Sega, they thought, "oh yeah, hype is there. Let's release it as fast you can with as little work as possible. And MILK the fanbase and those who are hyped. MILKKK them real good. Our fanboys will do half of our work. They will fight for us even when our shallow work is right in front of their eyes. Let's do it!!!"
This right here is why I didnt buy this CRAP
最后由 SnowBlack&D7BBC 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 23 日 下午 10:21
Dr. Atrocious 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 12:11 
No other game was as rare as Shenmue 1 and 2. In every game store I visited, I was told "everyone is looking for that game" and even "games on this system are no longer sold" in some places. Of course, it could be found on Ebay, but that was far more expensive... And obviously, the alternative was to pirate it... I didn't want to pirate one of my most favorite games.

I used to just be fixated on the idea of owning my own physical copy, until eventually I just wanted to have it, physical or not. This is finally a means of owning it that's both cheaper and meets moral standards for me.
Etchasketch 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 3:42 
I preordered it for 20. 10 bucks a pop sounds good to me.

Sounds like the people complaining still live with their parents.
Lazy Day at the Beach 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 4:16 
引用自 ℛaveÐƵ
No other game was as rare as Shenmue 1 and 2. In every game store I visited, I was told "everyone is looking for that game" and even "games on this system are no longer sold" in some places. Of course, it could be found on Ebay, but that was far more expensive... And obviously, the alternative was to pirate it... I didn't want to pirate one of my most favorite games.

I used to just be fixated on the idea of owning my own physical copy, until eventually I just wanted to have it, physical or not. This is finally a means of owning it that's both cheaper and meets moral standards for me.

Well that is not true. There are plenty of DC games that were actually rare and hard to find. Shenmue was a fiver from everywhere as it was popular when the DC was alive.


They could've modernised the controls tbh, it is truly an awful experience moving around. Camera controls are just as bad.
b9thirty99 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 4:54 
引用自 Etchasketch
I preordered it for 20. 10 bucks a pop sounds good to me.

Sounds like the people complaining still live with their parents.
No it's actually other way around. If you live with your parents you will ask them to buy you this game. But if you are living alone you would see value of your money and you will Know when someone is ripping you off and when to save up.
Lazy Day at the Beach 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 5:41 
It's like people think you get rich by wasting money.
Etchasketch 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 5:54 
引用自 MehKind
引用自 Etchasketch
I preordered it for 20. 10 bucks a pop sounds good to me.

Sounds like the people complaining still live with their parents.
No it's actually other way around. If you live with your parents you will ask them to buy you this game. But if you are living alone you would see value of your money and you will Know when someone is ripping you off and when to save up.
https://www.indeed.com/
Miraglyth 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 6:05 
引用自 Etchasketch
引用自 MehKind
if you are living alone you would see value of your money
https://www.indeed.com/

Ahahaha, that's a job site. That's a hilarious way to make it look like you agree while subtly telling someone to get a job.
最后由 Miraglyth 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 6:05
Lazy Day at the Beach 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 6:39 
The people who act like they make lots of money usually earn minimum wage.
R3N 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 7:59 
引用自 MehKind
You are talking like this is the first time a long time console game finally ported to the PC.... Just to let you know games are made on PC. So you shouldn't be amazed if it comes back to it.

I am a programmer myself, i make flash games and I know how hard my peer works. I am not undermining them in any way. I am questioning the price tag, and i don't think it needs that big of price tag. Games such as these have a solid fanbase and hype around so making sure that you get the price right, you actually have to put serious analysis. If it was $20, I can guarantee you it would have sold more copies. Just check current sold copies in steamdb. You will get answer. Then there a re newcomers like me who already have refunded the game. I unlike most of them will be back, but not until I it becomes $10 or less.
Reason for the price Tag
1) Mehkid did you consider that the game It's a new Release, its common sense when a new game release will cost more, its the norm here on steam and in gaming industry. Hell they even sell Snes port games here for 15$ now that is utterly ridiculous. They use part of that money for marketing expenses. It can't cost less since with time the price Will logically drop. So Strategically is a modest price. Even through some people got the game for 20$ if you search hard enough.
2) It's 2 games not one, so you have to recalculate the price.
I paid 26$ for Both games. 13$ + 13$ =$26
3$ + for a new release not much since a port can end up costing +10$ to 20$ more.
3) Most of the games you mentioned already had a PC release or originally they were PC games.
Shenmue had a complex history. Since Sega changed hands a lot was lost... Especially for a game made 20 years ago. Porting a PC game is extremely easy compared with a older complex game that had to be heavily compressed. Shenmue was extremely complex for it's time.Hell every NPC is unique and they have a programmed schedule they all get up in the morning to work and walk there and then go back to their home. It's ridiculously excessive to program that even through most people would not even notice it. No game bothered to do that back then and even in the modern games they don't.
4) For us Shenmue fans is very cheap.
Shenmue 1 $35.35 + around $100 for shenmue II used(Shenmue II was never released on Dreamcast in the west.) + 80$ used dreamcast Total = $215
5) Is sega taking advantage of fans Hype? I don't think so. As well most companies do that. Look at Squarenix...
6) This was the most expensive game costing around 70 million to produce both games back then. It's production value is huge and that make it worth more than a snes port costing around 8$.
最后由 R3N 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 8:22
b9thirty99 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 8:15 
Sega has ripped their fanbase and as I said they said ".... Our fanboys will protect us and our price tag, let's MILLKK them real good..." And they are doing that indeed. Some of you guys are ignorant brainwashed peasants. Now I will just get this game for less than $5 while you made them a profit, I have got a lot of patience. Keep living in your echo chamber. I rest my case.


Andddddd.... Unsubscribed from fanboys zone.
最后由 b9thirty99 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 24 日 上午 8:17
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