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Nezu May 25, 2023 @ 4:15pm
List of Firmament like games - Games which carry the spirit of Cyan
This is a list for players who are looking for games similar to Firmament.
Quite often when players ask for recommendations, i see people recommending games that have no resemblance to Firmament at all.
Because in Firmament, as in all games from Cyan, the story is always one of the main focus points, which is told through the environment, puzzles and some other elements like characters, journals, FMV's etc.
But most of all,these games always radiate a unique tranquil, calm and also timelessness atmosphere, which can hardly be compared to other games.
That is also what makes it so difficult to recommend fitting titles.
So I hope that the following list will help you find a game that offers a similar experience to Firmament.

Firmament's predecessor
https://store.steampowered.com/app/306760/Obduction/

A game that carries the spirit of Cyan like no other:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/512790/Quern__Undying_Thoughts/

The game that literally started this whole Genre:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255560/Myst/

Considered by many Cyan fans as the best game they ever created:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/63610/Riven_The_Sequel_to_MYST/
(Cyan is already working on a Remake: https://cyan.com/2022/10/31/olttfor/)

Beautiful worlds, Puzzles, an amazing Soundtrack by Jack Wall and a touching story:https://store.steampowered.com/app/925930/Myst_III_Exile/

A great successor to Myst Exile, for which the same points apply:https://store.steampowered.com/app/925940/Myst_IV_Revelation/

A recommendation for fans of the Myst series.
It hasn't aged quite as good as the previous mentioned Myst games, but it concludes the Myst-Saga with a fitting ending:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/208110/Myst_V_End_of_Ages/

For everyone who can't get enough of the Myst universe and wants to explore more worlds, puzzles and is interested in the lore that his universe has to offer.
Offline SIngleplayer Version:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/63650/URU_Complete_Chronicles/
Online Multiplayer Version, with more content, which offers a very passionate and friendly community:
https://mystonline.com/en

Also a non Cyan game, with a unique world, interesting but challenging puzzles, that offers a nice story telling via classical FMV's:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1709550/Schizm_Mysterious_Journey/

Note:
Games like The Witness, The Talos Principle, The Rhem Series, etc. are considered by many players to be very good games that offer an amazing experience, but in my opinion they have no real resemblance to Cyan Games like Firmament.The puzzles have no deeper meaning or function to the world, nor are they part of the story.Instead, they often seem like randomly placed challenges for the player.Story elements are also not the focus in these games, and the story as such does not have much importance.If anything, the Rhem series is most comparable to oldschool Cyan games.But the flood of random puzzles, the boring and confusing world design and a flat and unattractive story, rmakes it rather difficult to recommend the series in the context of this thread (No hard feelings Rhem fans).
Last edited by Nezu; May 25, 2023 @ 4:23pm
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KBECTOMAH May 25, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Only VR
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1599560/Wanderer/
Only 2D
https://store.steampowered.com/app/454250/The_Eyes_of_Ara/
(Shizm 3)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/986350/Nemezis_Mysterious_Journey_III/

I don't pretend that these games are very similar, just from what I've been playing lately they came to mind, of course there are many old games such as Atlantis and other games from cryo and Adventure Games, but they are already quite old, I remembered from the games of recent years, from Firmament I confess I was waiting for a similar Wanderer interactions, but it turned out that it turned out, I would be glad to see more options, from the above presented by the author of the topic Quern, I would like to note separately that he is really very good, his weak side is only the plot.

Also for VR, I would like to mention the RedMatter series (1,2), they are of course quite simple and linear, but nevertheless!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/966680/Red_Matter/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2081470/Red_Matter_2/
Last edited by KBECTOMAH; May 28, 2023 @ 3:50am
DrewBA77 May 26, 2023 @ 6:06am 
VR exclusive, there are FORM and The Room VR: A Dark Matter. For VR and flatscreen, there's also The Talos Principle.
owowg May 26, 2023 @ 9:41am 
INFRA is more linear than the typical Myst-like, but has all the tinkering with old derelict machinery and lost letters and recordings you'll ever want.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/251110/INFRA/
Last edited by owowg; May 26, 2023 @ 9:44am
Diamond Knight May 26, 2023 @ 9:47am 
I didn't play Schizm so can't comment. I don't consider Quern as similar. Although the puzzles are ingenious and they all blend in the world, they're existence doesn't really make sense. If I recall correctly there were several doors that require convoluted "keys" to open that only a madman/murderer/haunted house will create. The escape room treatment. Puzzle existence only makes sense if the owner has a problem in his head or the place is straight up haunted or magical. Because if your reason is magic or ghosts then pretty much everything will make sense. Eg. Xing the land beyond.

I remember Eyes of Ara was more standard point and click. It didn't give me much cyan vibes.

The most important feature of cyan games, that I realise very few developers are able to do, is that every puzzle has a logical in game world reason for existing. Eg. Everything in obduction is locked or blocked because they were preparing for an invasion. It was meant to slow down the invaders to buy time so they made things as convoluted as they could. I know Talos Principle puzzles have a reason to exist but their reason isn't because of the garden they are in. It's still more like a puzzle chamber game like portal.

So in that vein, the only games I have played that have the spirit of a cyan game are:
Outer Wilds
https://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/
Subnautica
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/
Subnautica Below Zero
https://store.steampowered.com/app/848450/Subnautica_Below_Zero/
Dredge (if they didn't mark the location of everything on the map it will a lot less brain dead. Somehow I feel this game fits. Not too sure why)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1562430/DREDGE/
Last edited by Diamond Knight; May 26, 2023 @ 6:25pm
Nezu Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Zadbox Entertainment, the ones who created Quern: Undying Thoughts, released a Teaser for their new project.
It looks very interesting.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2458980/Dimhaven_Enigmas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSO6tTQUWo
Last edited by Nezu; Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:53pm
lousi Jun 6, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Nezu:
Zadbox Entertainment, the ones who created Quern: Undying Thoughts, released a Teaser for their new project.
It looks very interesting.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2458980/Dimhaven_Enigmas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSO6tTQUWo

How awesome is that!?!? Quern was already really cool! Wouldn't have thought that the gentlemen http://querngame.com/aboutus.html would release another game. Thanks for posting. Accordingly, my vacation is saved ;-) Until then, I'm sure with Firmament unfortunately reached the end. :-(
miksayrs Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by owowg:
INFRA is more linear than the typical Myst-like, but has all the tinkering with old derelict machinery and lost letters and recordings you'll ever want.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/251110/INFRA/

Absolutely, the store page doesn't do it justice. The environments are gigantic, graphics are surprisingly good once you get outdoors, and the puzzles are worthy and numerous. Much longer game than Firmament. Its price is low, get it, you won't regret it.
miksayrs Jun 11, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
No one mentioned Discolored.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/933860/Discolored/

Very short, but fun and sequel coming soon.
ReadyToPlay Jun 11, 2023 @ 2:44pm 
There used to be tons of copycats in the 90s after Myst came out, and most have been forgotten.

"Entombed" from 1997:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B47---OGvtc

"Gadget" from 1994:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58MMwxTSvM

just to name a few,
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