JOYSTICK PROBLEM FIXED

[amylander]

Hi everyone, first post here, long-time lurker. I, like many others, have been pulling my hair out trying to get my joystick recognized in CloD Blitz. After trying every "fix" I could find in the web without success, I tried something I used in iL-2 1946, and BINGO. My problem, (and probably yours, if you're reading this) is that I have too many controllers connected to my system, and it's not feasible to plug and unplug them for every different sim I fly. To wit, my "Simpit" has no less than 9, yes 9 controllers attached to two USB hubs, plus 3 Saitek panels. These include TM HOTAS Warthog stick and throttle, Saitek Yoke/throttle quad, two separate Saitek throttle quads, a CH throttle quad, CH Pro Pedals, and two Saitek trim wheels. Why so many? Because I like to use the right controllers for the aircraft I'm flying. That's it. I can't stand to fly a Spitfire with a yoke and a 6 axis quadrant on my right hand. I'd also hate to fly a B-17 with a joystick and a 3 (or 1) axis throttle on my left. I'm just picky that way. So the problem seems to be that the sim only recognizes a limited number of controllers, and then it stops looking. Just like in iL-2 1946, where the limit was 4 controllers. Windows orders, and assigns numbers to your controllers every time you reboot your system, or plug/unplug USB controllers. After Windows 7, these numbers are reassigned in a seemingly random way after each reboot. This is why all of your controllers had to be re-mapped and reconfigured after every startup. Not practical at all. You spend more time doing that than actually flying. On my setup, it's completely unworkable. You can't assign the controller numbers, windows does it, and it does it differently every time. This is a huge problem. Until I understood this, I had basically stopped flying sims after WIN7 because of this issue. And I've been flying flight sims since 1990.
Enter this little gem of a program by Brian Kendall: DEVREORDER https://github.com/briankendall/devreorder
In a nutshell, what this program is is a DLL that starts with whatever sims/games you choose (or your whole system) and lets YOU decide what number/order your controllers are assigned, and this is the important part - YOUR ASSIGNMENTS STICK! They remain the same after each reboot, no matter what you plug or unplug, and you decide the order they are recognized in for each different sim, or for your whole system if you only want one configuration. There are 32 and 64 bit dinput8.DLLs, that you copy into the folder with the game's executable file, along with an .ini file (just a text file that you type in the ordering you want). If this sounds complicated, I promise it is not. It's super-easy. Type your controiller priority into one file, then copy and paste that and the right DLL into the game folder. That's it. Read the directions carefully first, but it really is that easy. There is an example .ini file for you to use, just change the controller names to yours, and rock and roll.
For the sake of completeness, before doing this, I plugged my warthog stick into a MOBO USB port, rather than a hub ( that didn't help, and I really don't think it matters one way or the other with DEVREORDER.) I also used the last method of installing DEVREORDER, where you use it to affect your whole system rather than just one game at a time. It's easier to just use the one game at a time install, so you may try that first. Really just copy and paste, where the whole system method takes a little doing with your system diinput8.dll file, but again, no big deal. - note - there is one issue with TrackIR you can read on the "issues" tab on the download site. Just makes one small change in the installation (makes it easier) to avoid the TrackIR issue. This is only if you do the 'whole system' method.
As I said, I have used DEVREORDER in iL-2 1946 to overcome the 4 controller limit in that sim as well. DEVREORDER won't make the sim recognize more controllers than before, but the key thing is that you get to prioritize which of your controllers are first in line to BE recognized, and that makes all the difference. In CloD Blitz, put your joystick first, say rudder pedals second, throttle third, and then I've got an elevator trim wheel fourth. After that, it's just gravy. I'm not sure what the limit in CloD Blitz is, I'm guessing 6 or so. But if your joystick is number 7 in line, the sim will never even see it. You can prove this to yourself by unplugging everything else except your stick, starting the sim, and seeing that CloD Blitz likes yous stick just fine, as long as it can see it. I've been using DEVREORDER for maybe 9 months or so, not the first hiccup of any kind in it's operation, no viruses, no nothing. once you put it in, it is literally transparent. You don't even need to start it, or think about it ever again, except to say"I'm so glad to have found that little program!" Thank you Brian, thank you, THANK YOU!
Good luck, and I'd love to hear how everyone gets along.
Regards,
Ghostrider9667/Andrew

[JollyJack77]

I am really pi**ed off with steam, CLoD warthog hardware is not seen, what ever settings.
IL2 and other NON steam stuff runs fine ....

[71st_Mastiff]

unfortunatly not working for the T50CM2 Virpil throttle controller.

[KoN]

71st_AH_Mastiff eredeti hozzászólása:

unfortunatly not working for the T50CM2 Virpil throttle controller.

Same ive managed to map basic stuff . But a lot of my buttons are not being used . Not sure if a fix will come .

[longnez]

KoN eredeti hozzászólása:

71st_AH_Mastiff eredeti hozzászólása:

unfortunatly not working for the T50CM2 Virpil throttle controller.

Same ive managed to map basic stuff . But a lot of my buttons are not being used . Not sure if a fix will come .

Same thing for me with sidewinder FFB2 microsoft

[DDG3]

omg! it worked for me tytyty!!

[killerdjk]

How do we use devreorder with battle of stalingrad?

[71st_Mastiff]

the latest update now its working.

[udidwht]

X56 HOTAS here and it will not bind when trying to set it up.

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

udidwht eredeti hozzászólása:

X56 HOTAS here and it will not bind when trying to set it up.

Please take the time to read the 'Getting Started and Troubleshooting Guide' located in 'manuals' folder in main 'IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover' install folder in Steam.

[Ouwe Knar]

Got all the dlc in and payed for, tryed to get "JOY" Stick working but after hours and hours not a proper stearable usable aircraft in sight, start the game and spended 6 hours doing everything in the advice and read and exe file and and and ..one word only : BAH!
the layout is utter crap even on keyboard* this game is utter lost and not a escape to flying at all..its a psycho sick invested time and money and wont ever again trust this developer again.

[71st_Mastiff]

all my joysticks work, I have over 6 devices connected not one issue, just bind the basic stuff first. if you know what your doing that is?

[Ouwe Knar]

How many joysticks does one need,and i certainly know what i am doing.
Why not tell us what is going on that so many have multiple issues,but no one knows or forwards the simple solutions for it. So 90% dont know what they are doing?
And spend hours and hours trying to make the settings stick as it supposed to be? This game isnt a cheap freebee actually.

[71st_Mastiff]

Ouwe Knar eredeti hozzászólása:

How many joysticks does one need,and i certainly know what i am doing.
Why not tell us what is going on that so many have multiple issues,but no one knows or forwards the simple solutions for it. So 90% dont know what they are doing?
And spend hours and hours trying to make the settings stick as it supposed to be? This game isnt a cheap freebee actually.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1234051719

[longnez]

Trop compliqué à paramétrer, c'est pour ce motif seulement que je n'y joue pas à COD

[Ouwe Knar]

longnez eredeti hozzászólása:

Trop compliqué à paramétrer, c'est pour ce motif seulement que je n'y joue pas à COD

Translation of the poster for clarity.
Too complicated to configure, it is for this reason only that I do not play COD