Outer Wilds

Outer Wilds

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Canyon Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:20am
Is there a reason Brittle Hollow collapses?
Yea there's a black hole in the middle, but the nomai put that there like a million years ago. Is there a lore reason it just so happens to start falling apart 22 minutes from the end of the sun?
Been a while since i beat the game so I was wondering if anyone else remembered. During my play through i figured it was just for the sake of the story, but the game actually has very few instances of those sort of contrivances. Even the ships computer has a lore reason for not having its data wiped.
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Bobywan Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:40am 
It is because of the lantern moon spitting balls of fire toward the planet.
Quillithe Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:43am 
And i think it's implied that the rate of this increased dramatically near the supernova
Canyon Dec 9, 2024 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by Bobywan:
It is because of the lantern moon spitting balls of fire toward the planet.
Yea but why did that get worse all of the sudden?
Canyon Dec 9, 2024 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Quillithe:
And i think it's implied that the rate of this increased dramatically near the supernova
I suppose. If that's the extent of it that's fine I was just curious if there was a more fleshed out reason than happenstance.
Definitely not something that takes away from the game so I see why they didn't bother lol
Quillithe Dec 9, 2024 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Canyon:
Originally posted by Quillithe:
And i think it's implied that the rate of this increased dramatically near the supernova
I suppose. If that's the extent of it that's fine I was just curious if there was a more fleshed out reason than happenstance.
Definitely not something that takes away from the game so I see why they didn't bother lol
Yeah it's a bit fuzzy, probably one of the weaker plot points
JAG Dec 9, 2024 @ 8:53am 
There's a very recent reading on Hollow's Lantern, which states that the volcanic activity has increased. This coincides with the whole supernova affair, so the common consensus is that the sun's death also affects other volcanic activity. I think the cause and effect connection here is a bit weak, but it works well enough.
Josuuj Dec 10, 2024 @ 8:47am 
The volcanic activity along with the power surges from the Nomai Structures activated by the supernova.
Tep Dec 12, 2024 @ 6:40pm 
Hopefully I don't come across as hostile to other opinions here. I just want to put my two cents here about how this game deals with causality and whether there needs to be a fleshed-out explanation for the increased volcanic activity at the time of the sun's death.

I think that given the various ways that the rules of physics in the Outer Wilds universe differ from that of our own, it's completely reasonable that increased solar activity of a dying star could affect activity of a nearby volcanic planet, and to leave the explanation of exactly why this happens up to our imaginations. After all, there are numerous other things like planets with non-euclidean geometry, black holes inside a planet that exerts a fraction of the gravity of the star just nearby, time travel, black/white hole warping, etc about which the game gives us ample room to contemplate the details.

This game only works because it's an eccentric, mysterious abstraction of reality, not a completely logical and entirely explained simulation.

Not that there couldn't have been more of an explanation of this phenomenon, just that I don't think more is needed to fit the nature of the game as is.
Last edited by Tep; Dec 12, 2024 @ 6:41pm
Quillithe Dec 12, 2024 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by '.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.':
Hopefully I don't come across as hostile to other opinions here. I just want to put my two cents here about how this game deals with causality and whether there needs to be a fleshed-out explanation for the increased volcanic activity at the time of the sun's death.

I think that given the various ways that the rules of physics in the Outer Wilds universe differ from that of our own, it's completely reasonable that increased solar activity of a dying star could affect activity of a nearby volcanic planet, and to leave the explanation of exactly why this happens up to our imaginations. After all, there are numerous other things like planets with non-euclidean geometry, black holes inside a planet that exerts a fraction of the gravity of the star just nearby, time travel, black/white hole warping, etc about which the game gives us ample room to contemplate the details.

This game only works because it's an eccentric, mysterious abstraction of reality, not a completely logical and entirely explained simulation.

Not that there couldn't have been more of an explanation of this phenomenon, just that I don't think more is needed to fit the nature of the game as is.
That's true, but the reason this one can be a little more unsatisfying to players is that it's less internally consistent.

Black holes seem to just work differently here. Dark Bramble is...basically supernatural. But given what we know in-universe there's just not as solid a reason for Brittle Hollow falling apart right now - especially since it's kinda easy to miss the explanation that is offered in game.

Definitely not a big fault though.
Tep Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Quillithe:
Originally posted by '.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.':
Hopefully I don't come across as hostile to other opinions here. I just want to put my two cents here about how this game deals with causality and whether there needs to be a fleshed-out explanation for the increased volcanic activity at the time of the sun's death.

I think that given the various ways that the rules of physics in the Outer Wilds universe differ from that of our own, it's completely reasonable that increased solar activity of a dying star could affect activity of a nearby volcanic planet, and to leave the explanation of exactly why this happens up to our imaginations. After all, there are numerous other things like planets with non-euclidean geometry, black holes inside a planet that exerts a fraction of the gravity of the star just nearby, time travel, black/white hole warping, etc about which the game gives us ample room to contemplate the details.

This game only works because it's an eccentric, mysterious abstraction of reality, not a completely logical and entirely explained simulation.

Not that there couldn't have been more of an explanation of this phenomenon, just that I don't think more is needed to fit the nature of the game as is.
That's true, but the reason this one can be a little more unsatisfying to players is that it's less internally consistent.

Black holes seem to just work differently here. Dark Bramble is...basically supernatural. But given what we know in-universe there's just not as solid a reason for Brittle Hollow falling apart right now - especially since it's kinda easy to miss the explanation that is offered in game.

Definitely not a big fault though.

Yea, I agree, NBD. ::D
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