About DLC

[hfh]

Is DLC horrible?
Is it worth buying?

[PewienCzlowiek]

If the game was worth buying, the DLC is too.

[Superabbit]

I enjoyed it more than the base game.

Anyone who likes the base game will like the DLC.

[Salamimann]

It's scary but so worth it omg. Do yourself a favour

[chronometrics]

It has a very different feel from the base game, both aesthetically and gameplay-wise. I really prefer the base game, but the DLC does give you more to explore and expands on the story.

[胶片]

Worth. Don't be scared, if you love the game, you'll love it.

[Arkathorn]

The DLC is really good! Different feel from the base game, but same concept of exploration and increasing your understanding. Later parts are much spookier than the base game (except the anglerfish), with a lot of pushing yourself through scary situations. Less diversity of experience (the whole DLC is on the same theme), which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Superabbit:

Anyone who likes the base game will like the DLC.

It has a different enough feel I wouldn't say that.

I would say it's really good though.

[SMJSMOK]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Superabbit:

Anyone who likes the base game will like the DLC.

It has a different enough feel I wouldn't say that.

I would say it's really good though.

I know that you're right and there are some people who like the base game and dislike the DLC. I just can't understand it. I remember being cautiously excited for it (I didn't really know what to expect) and then the DLC absolutely delivering the quality of at least the base game. The only point I get is that it's scarier than the base game, and that's a problem for some people which I understand. But apart from that, it's just more Outer Wilds...or isn't it?

[Simpleton]

The DLC is worth buying, but the quality of its story is a step down from the base game for sure.

[ghoster]

the dlc is super good, the story in my opinion is on par with the main game. and the environment is actually awesome

[Wouadak]

Originally posted by SMJSMOK:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

It has a different enough feel I wouldn't say that.

I would say it's really good though.

I know that you're right and there are some people who like the base game and dislike the DLC. I just can't understand it. I remember being cautiously excited for it (I didn't really know what to expect) and then the DLC absolutely delivering the quality of at least the base game. The only point I get is that it's scarier than the base game, and that's a problem for some people which I understand. But apart from that, it's just more Outer Wilds...or isn't it?

Personally I really enjoyed the DLC overall but... it's still below my experience on the base game.

The 2 parts obviously have a lot of similarities, and the Outer Wilds "spirit" is still there in the DLC, but I find that there are still some differences that can explain the divergent opinions.

For example, I find that the part of exploration is less diversified than in the base game.
There is no space exploration, and walking exploration takes place in the same place (or almost). There is no drastic changes of places with their own identities (like with Giant's Deep, Brittle Hollow, the Hourglass twins, the solar station, etc), fewer changes in atmosphere, less wonder, etc.

The narration is also different, we always disseminate small bits of leads and clues to put back in order, but it looks much less like a "puzzle" than the basic game.

We can also note the world of dreams and its pahse of infiltration, which some people found somewhat frustrating. We can pass most of them with "alternative" paths but it's not necessarily very practical (especially for one of the places) and few players have done it I think.
These phases can perhaps stick a little less to the game's spirit which had accustomed us to not really finding "enemies" other than nature itself (but maybe we can find similarities in the phase to that of the coelacanths).

I hadn't had a problem with the loop in the base game, but in the DLC it got a little frustrating at times, with a more tedious process of returning to certain places.

Overall I think there are some differences that can explain the different feelings. But in a way, unless someone is really terrified and it spoils their experience (I would find that a little surprising but hey everyone has their sensitivities), I would also have a little trouble understanding that someone could love the base game and hate the DLC.

[Sack Jellington]

It is a lot of things, but horrible is not one of them.

If you enjoyed the base-game for some combination of its story, puzzles, music, and environments then your experience across the DLC will average out to roughly the same quality.

My personal feelings are that the story is equal, the puzzles are sometimes a bit tedious and a lot more abstract, the music is somehow better, and the environments are just... wow...

The base-game is an experience that is best explored completely blind, but I wouldn't fault somebody for looking up a hint or two near the end of the DLC.

[Jeffery2048]

Honestly I have no idea how people enjoy the DLC. I would consider the base game to be one of the greatest games of all time and I think the DLC is trash. A lot of the puzzle solutions are literally solved by just finding a video that shows you how to complete them. For reasons I won't get into for spoilers, all the solutions to the DLC puzzles are arbitrary so you can't use your intuition to figure them out like you could for the puzzles in the base game, so the game has to resort to just showing you what to do.

They also make navigation more tedious by taking away your traversal tools and making you slowly wade through boring "horror" sections.

If I played the DLC at the same time I first played the base game I think it would have significantly lowered my opinion of the base game. It really is that bad.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Jeffery2048:

Honestly I have no idea how people enjoy the DLC. I would consider the base game to be one of the greatest games of all time and I think the DLC is trash. A lot of the puzzle solutions are literally solved by just finding a video that shows you how to complete them. For reasons I won't get into for spoilers, all the solutions to the DLC puzzles are arbitrary so you can't use your intuition to figure them out like you could for the puzzles in the base game, so the game has to resort to just showing you what to do.

I wouldn't agree with this based on how many people seem to have missed some of the clearly planned solutions. They're definitely not arbitrary at all, but can be solved by observation and analysis.

There are hints you find, but that's no different from the rest of the game.

[Wouadak]

Originally posted by Jeffery2048:

Honestly I have no idea how people enjoy the DLC. I would consider the base game to be one of the greatest games of all time and I think the DLC is trash. A lot of the puzzle solutions are literally solved by just finding a video that shows you how to complete them. For reasons I won't get into for spoilers, all the solutions to the DLC puzzles are arbitrary so you can't use your intuition to figure them out like you could for the puzzles in the base game, so the game has to resort to just showing you what to do.

They also make navigation more tedious by taking away your traversal tools and making you slowly wade through boring "horror" sections.

If I played the DLC at the same time I first played the base game I think it would have significantly lowered my opinion of the base game. It really is that bad.

I see nothing arbitrary in the DLC honestly...
It is extremely well built on the contrary

The slides never give clear and neat answers where you just have to apply a solution like you say, it gives leads and clues but that's it.
There's just a vision that they modified the one you find when you try to open the sarcophagus in the dream world and made it a little too obvious to me (and again, it depends on your way of thinking).

But if you want to elaborate on what bothered you, don't hesitate because as I said above personally, I have trouble understanding how you can appreciate the base game and hate the DLC, when it works globally on the same principles.

I agree that exploring some areas is more tedious but there is always a logic behind it and nothing insurmountable